Last night Lis was changing the channel and hit 46 instead of 41 (nic at nite) and a photo of Ayla popped up. I changed it, she didn't see the show at all. She said, I hate it when they talk about dead babies. I said, she's not dead, she's missing. Lis said, no, she's dead. Someone hurted her real bad and now she's dead.
OMG. I questioned her on how she knew this and she said she knew from her picture. I asked if anyone told her or let her watch shows like that and she said no. WTF? Is she right? Is Ayla dead?
sometimes you CAN just see a picture of a missing child and know what happened to them.....Lis has psychic abilities obviously.....it's a shame though she can tell things such as that a baby is dead....
Apparently, they found blood in the basement. Also, it's been reported that the father (and I use that term loosely) didn't pass the "straight face test". This poor, helpless soul represents all that is wrong with the world these days. I'm afraid I agree with Lis for as soon as I saw this darling girl's photo, I KNEW. A mother with substance abuse, adults who let this little girl down and the delay in reporting the alleged "kidnapping" makes for an all too familiar scenario. Wherever Ayla is, I pray that she is surrounded by light and love. It truly breaks my heart. Justice and karma are two things I believe in and I sincerely hope that those that are responsible suffer for their actions. Thanks for the opportunity to vent....
if a kid is missing and it is all over the news the chance that it is gone forever or dead are pretty high. I am sure Lis was around when other kids disappeared/were killed so when a childs pic popped up her subconciousness made the connection.
Thinking..(yeah, it hurts)..she knows she lives here because it's 'safe', she knows it isn't safe at home. So, yeah, things could be on her mind. I still think it's a weird thing to say.
She's got that special knack. I enlarged the picture a lot, and the eyes are truly flat. I can't tell anything about how she died, but she is gone. Since that ability showed up for Lissa when she is so young, it would be interesting to see what else she can do, or how long she has been aware that she can tell something like this from a picture. She is a very special girl.
It is weird, and because I am such a complete Pansy when it comes to this stuff, I'm not sure if I can't tell anything about her death, or if I just won't let myself focus on her long enough to figure things out.
We've been following it as we live 50 miles away from where she disappeared. We don't understand why there have been no arrests yet. They found blood in the basement (dad and gf's bedroom is in the basement), there was no sign of an abduction and dad didn't pass the polygraph test. They are still searching daily for her body and again divers searched the river in her town yesterday. Dad, his girlfriend, her child, gf's sister and her child were all at home. Neighbors heard a car arrive at the house that night very late and leave after several minutes but ppl think they whoever it was took the body, not abducted her. Very sad. I don't understand how ppl can hurt children.
and this makes me think of that little boy who went missing and his step mom is the suspect---the dad has since divorced her when a plot she had to have him murdered was uncovered, yet she is still FREE and has not cooperated with the police and the little boy has never been found....they obviously believe the boy is dead, but they don't know where he's at--they thought he was on some island she had been on that day (they tracked her via cell phone calls) but they couldn't find him there.....
so many missing children and in cases where it's a custody battle (i just read where a father killed his twin 2 year olds and himself) or an overwhelmed parent, are there no signs? do we not hear of the signs in the press?? look at andrea yates, there were PLENTY of signs there, but her husband didn't get her the help she desperately needed and left her alone with the kids.....
susan smith---divorce case....she didn't want her soon to be ex to get the children....how selfish can one be to take your own flesh and blood and kill them to spite someone you hate????
and when there ARE signs.....where are the authorities??? look at that little girl in hickory, NC who was murdered by her step mother, children services were involved, but then the family moved and they made no real effort to find them.....
Susan Smiths case had nothing to do with her not wanting her husband to get the children. Sadly, it's more sick and twisted than that. She was dating her bosses son who was trying to end the relationship with her and wrote a letter to her with one of the reasons being that he didn't want children and didn't want to raise her children. She killed the boys in an attempt to get this man to stay with her.
Miss Tia---the little guy you first mentioned was Kyron Horman. They have repeatedly searched Sauvie's Island (Portland area) without success. I'm sure he's gone, just wish they could at least find him.
I read something about Ayla having an arm in a cast at the time of the "abduction" .... anyone know what happen to put her arm in a cast? I don't see an explanation any where.
thank you Christina! i couldn't think of his name when i was ranting!!
anon---to me, that was susan smith not wanting the father to have those boys.....i know she was dating that guy and he didn't want to be a 'father' and that was why she wanted to get 'rid' of them, but why not give them to the father?????? he would have taken custody of those boys!!!
father of missing mother murders sons and social work was a fucktard.....the social worker took the kids over for a supervised visit, he refused to let her in the house---she still let him take the boys...she smelled gas---she still let him take the boys....she goes to call her SUPERVISOR, not say 911 and the house explodes.....now even if she had called 911, they probably wouldn't have gotten there in time; but what was this idiot thinking?? oh okay, he won't let me in the house and i smell gas, have a nice visit....WTF??? i know it just happened and we don't have all the details, but right now, this worker needs fired....and i know she'll feel horrible and guilty the rest of her life---if she has a conscience.....
calling the damn supervisor.....you smell gas you call 911!!!
I read the story on Drudge this morning and was just speechless. How can this happen? We are at a crisis point in America in regards to care of our children and what we allow to happen. It is our system and it sucks mightily. I feel such sorrow over those two little boys. They were starting to verbalize what had happened to their mother on that late night camping trip ( "mommy was in the trunk", etc.). Poor little guys. I'm also thinking about what a lying bastard the FIL was, saying that she flirted with him and wanted to have sex. Now he knows what a lying, murderous jackass his son was, and everyone else knows, too. How could that worker allow those little boys into that home with the smell of gas present, and the father disallowing her presence? Our system is broken. We obviously can no longer trust the ability of those who would sit in judgment and analyze what is and is not okay insofar as a healthy and nurturing environment for children in crisis. What do we do now? How can we fix the system or is it even possible to fix it?
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Last night Lis was changing the channel and hit 46 instead of 41 (nic at nite) and a photo of Ayla popped up. I changed it, she didn't see the show at all. She said, I hate it when they talk about dead babies. I said, she's not dead, she's missing. Lis said, no, she's dead. Someone hurted her real bad and now she's dead.
OMG. I questioned her on how she knew this and she said she knew from her picture. I asked if anyone told her or let her watch shows like that and she said no. WTF? Is she right? Is Ayla dead?
didn't they find her blood in her dad's bedroom??
sometimes you CAN just see a picture of a missing child and know what happened to them.....Lis has psychic abilities obviously.....it's a shame though she can tell things such as that a baby is dead....
Apparently, they found blood in the basement. Also, it's been reported that the father (and I use that term loosely) didn't pass the "straight face test". This poor, helpless soul represents all that is wrong with the world these days. I'm afraid I agree with Lis for as soon as I saw this darling girl's photo, I KNEW. A mother with substance abuse, adults who let this little girl down and the delay in reporting the alleged "kidnapping" makes for an all too familiar scenario. Wherever Ayla is, I pray that she is surrounded by light and love. It truly breaks my heart. Justice and karma are two things I believe in and I sincerely hope that those that are responsible suffer for their actions. Thanks for the opportunity to vent....
if a kid is missing and it is all over the news the chance that it is gone forever or dead are pretty high. I am sure Lis was around when other kids disappeared/were killed so when a childs pic popped up her subconciousness made the connection.
Nothing 'psychic' about it.
I'm sure you could be right, except I go out of my way to make sure she doesn't watch those things. She's only allowed 2 channels.
Thinking..(yeah, it hurts)..she knows she lives here because it's 'safe', she knows it isn't safe at home. So, yeah, things could be on her mind. I still think it's a weird thing to say.
She's got that special knack. I enlarged the picture a lot, and the eyes are truly flat. I can't tell anything about how she died, but she is gone.
Since that ability showed up for Lissa when she is so young, it would be interesting to see what else she can do, or how long she has been aware that she can tell something like this from a picture.
She is a very special girl.
I can't tell with Ayla. She's so pretty and sweet, I just don't know. I trust others on here who can read a pic though. Thanks.
And Lis is psychic. I just don't know what her gifts are yet. She's proven it to me before.
And isn't it weird how pic eyes go 'flat' after death. I've seen it before. My sons films have that weirdness.
It is weird, and because I am such a complete Pansy when it comes to this stuff, I'm not sure if I can't tell anything about her death, or if I just won't let myself focus on her long enough to figure things out.
Pat..... deep down you KNOW Lis is psychic....and this is only the beginning..... :)
Kids are really in-tune with their sixth sense.
Lis is very sensitive of those around her, it is very possible she can "see".
We've been following it as we live 50 miles away from where she disappeared. We don't understand why there have been no arrests yet. They found blood in the basement (dad and gf's bedroom is in the basement), there was no sign of an abduction and dad didn't pass the polygraph test. They are still searching daily for her body and again divers searched the river in her town yesterday. Dad, his girlfriend, her child, gf's sister and her child were all at home. Neighbors heard a car arrive at the house that night very late and leave after several minutes but ppl think they whoever it was took the body, not abducted her. Very sad. I don't understand how ppl can hurt children.
I've read it all now. The girlfriends family has a big drug ring. The grandma wasn't even there. I just want to cry for that baby.
I don't know anything about this case. Where is this happening?Where is the child's mom?
Maine. Ayla's mom was in rehab when she went missing. She was with her daddy..and his girl friend who is not looking good right now.
and this makes me think of that little boy who went missing and his step mom is the suspect---the dad has since divorced her when a plot she had to have him murdered was uncovered, yet she is still FREE and has not cooperated with the police and the little boy has never been found....they obviously believe the boy is dead, but they don't know where he's at--they thought he was on some island she had been on that day (they tracked her via cell phone calls) but they couldn't find him there.....
so many missing children and in cases where it's a custody battle (i just read where a father killed his twin 2 year olds and himself) or an overwhelmed parent, are there no signs? do we not hear of the signs in the press?? look at andrea yates, there were PLENTY of signs there, but her husband didn't get her the help she desperately needed and left her alone with the kids.....
susan smith---divorce case....she didn't want her soon to be ex to get the children....how selfish can one be to take your own flesh and blood and kill them to spite someone you hate????
and when there ARE signs.....where are the authorities??? look at that little girl in hickory, NC who was murdered by her step mother, children services were involved, but then the family moved and they made no real effort to find them.....
just makes me sick.....
Susan Smiths case had nothing to do with her not wanting her husband to get the children. Sadly, it's more sick and twisted than that. She was dating her bosses son who was trying to end the relationship with her and wrote a letter to her with one of the reasons being that he didn't want children and didn't want to raise her children. She killed the boys in an attempt to get this man to stay with her.
Miss Tia---the little guy you first mentioned was Kyron Horman. They have repeatedly searched Sauvie's Island (Portland area) without success.
I'm sure he's gone, just wish they could at least find him.
I read something about Ayla having an arm in a cast at the time of the "abduction" .... anyone know what happen to put her arm in a cast? I don't see an explanation any where.
thank you Christina! i couldn't think of his name when i was ranting!!
anon---to me, that was susan smith not wanting the father to have those boys.....i know she was dating that guy and he didn't want to be a 'father' and that was why she wanted to get 'rid' of them, but why not give them to the father?????? he would have taken custody of those boys!!!
father of missing mother murders sons and social work was a fucktard.....the social worker took the kids over for a supervised visit, he refused to let her in the house---she still let him take the boys...she smelled gas---she still let him take the boys....she goes to call her SUPERVISOR, not say 911 and the house explodes.....now even if she had called 911, they probably wouldn't have gotten there in time; but what was this idiot thinking?? oh okay, he won't let me in the house and i smell gas, have a nice visit....WTF??? i know it just happened and we don't have all the details, but right now, this worker needs fired....and i know she'll feel horrible and guilty the rest of her life---if she has a conscience.....
calling the damn supervisor.....you smell gas you call 911!!!
I read the story on Drudge this morning and was just speechless. How can this happen? We are at a crisis point in America in regards to care of our children and what we allow to happen. It is our system and it sucks mightily.
I feel such sorrow over those two little boys. They were starting to verbalize what had happened to their mother on that late night camping trip ( "mommy was in the trunk", etc.). Poor little guys.
I'm also thinking about what a lying bastard the FIL was, saying that she flirted with him and wanted to have sex. Now he knows what a lying, murderous jackass his son was, and everyone else knows, too.
How could that worker allow those little boys into that home with the smell of gas present, and the father disallowing her presence?
Our system is broken. We obviously can no longer trust the ability of those who would sit in judgment and analyze what is and is not okay insofar as a healthy and nurturing environment for children in crisis. What do we do now? How can we fix the system or is it even possible to fix it?
We need to change the laws regarding the goals of DHS. That's the only way we can change it.
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