The only thing wrong with making jack-o-lanterns, is that those darn kids always want to get in on the fun. The nerve of them! I love getting up to my armpitsin that pumpkin slime. Can't we adults just have one holiday all our own!!!!! hehe And don't try trick or treating as an adult---you don't get anything. They keep telling me I'm too old. The nerve!!!
Bayou, in past years some of the adults in my neighborhood would start ringing doorbells after 8pm for their treats. Hand them a can of beer & they're happy.
off topic from this post and i apologize, i am making an one time appearance and then i shall disappear again....
Pat---I have replied to your email, it's pretty long, so you might wanna pour a cup of coffee first.....
CJ-----i'm mailing you a letter in the mail as I owe you an apology.....postal service needs the support too....
Anon from the Chinese food post (thanks to everyone who told me about that post since this is my first visit back since towards the end of august)---your impersonation skills of me suck ass, though i guess i should be flattered i have an impersonator?? Wow, I have my own troll and impersonator.....
i'm logging in via my google account, so ya'll know it's me....
There...is...candy. Lots of it. And mead and harvest food. It's like thanksgiving, only you don't have to pretend you like your family and there are ghosts and music and fire and dancin' in the moonlight and holy shit, did you see that!! Lots of it.
oh i even changed my blogger google account pix, to further verify my identity.....this is me in my infamous natural pose....i believe i should name this picture FUCK CHINA!!!!.....
Hey Tia, long time, no see. As long as you're here, me and the girls were wondering what ever happened to DD's furnace fund you started collecting for? Wasn't there like a hundred bucks there? Let us know :)
The ONLY reason I am responding to you angie is because i do not like the implications you are making about me with your comment.....i've heard about the comments you've made about me here and i haven't even been here and in my opinion that's very disprespectful to pat and that's why i left in the first place---since some people just had to bring the dramz here and it irks my ire to no end people who profess to care about pat disrespected her to the point that their hatred for me blinded them to the fact that they were ultimately hurting pat by bringing shit here that did not belong here...and really? move the fuck on...grow up, move on, it's not that hard to do....try it, you might like it...
and yes, it does piss me off i feel i can't come to my friend pat's site anymore because of the vitriol in the comments....i'm sure that'll make you all laugh with glee, have a chuckle or two on me this morning...one would think though, being a bully is a hollow kind of victory, but i dunno....have your victory....oh wait, you had it....still didn't make you happy....hollow victory, eh? ....guess you'll have to make another target soon i suppose.....who are you getting sick of now?
y'all just should have been happy that you had ostracized me and forced me from pat's site, but nope, guess y'all weren't satisfied with that...y'all ostracized and forced others from here too for the simple fact that they were my friend....and yet someone still impersonates me in the comments so you can post insults to an imaginary me......i guess y'all did that since i had to block email addresses, close off comments on my LJ, i listen to VMs w/o listening, etc, you weren't getting a reaction from me....oh dear, how dare i not play along with you?
but in regards to your question, 2 people contributed, you were not one of them.....nor were any of your fellow friends.....those 2 people know what the money is going too....other than that, i owe you, nor any of your friends any other explanation as it is none of your business.....
as i have said on my blog i truly appreciate your former friendship and the time i knew you all (certain former members of fans of DD) and i am thankful for that....and now? i do not know you, maybe i didn't know any of you in the first place.....
i wish no one ill will, though i wish the harassment would stop and it really pisses me the fuck off what was done to a couple friends of mine, specifically to one of them-----the excessive harassment of them really really REALLY was uncalled for and really? it shouldn't have been in the first place....because people should be able to be friends with whomever they want without anyone being paranoid, people should be able to visit a mutual friends website without being attacked in the comments because of respect towards that person and i think the bullying, tyranny and harassment that has been directed towards me and several others goes far beyond any anger at me for deleting fans of DD (why be angry at the others? oh yeah, they stayed friends with me and didn't join the bully bunch...) and it just makes me sad that grown women are banded together in such a way....
i apologize for this comment pat....i DO respect you and that's why i left in the first place....to avoid all this shit....angie and "them" know how to push my buttons and get a reaction.....and attacking my integrity, attacking my friends and showing you, Pat, disrespect, by bringing this here....has really ticked me off this morning....so i'm sure they're very pleased with themselves and probably giving angie lots of high fives and praise on her comment.....
like i posted above, please check your email pat....and if you reply, well check your email maybe a few hours later, because i'll reply in a very timely fashion but i won't post here that i've replied because i am not coming back here.....all the bullying and harassment just causes me vast anxiety and my anxiety had leveled off so nicely....i need to get back to my nice relaxed state (it was bliss, truly).....you know i love you Pat.....
and with that.....i am NOT returning to this thread.....nor this site.....i am out....feel pleased with yourself Angie (and cohorts, i know y'all worked hours on what to post towards me here)....you've won your one sided war....
Angie, you need to explain that comment. Who are 'the girls' you refer to? What the fuck is a furnace fund? And why are you asking Miss Tia about it?
I will delete this blog before I let Miss Tia be disparaged on here. She is someone I trust completly and she has never been anything but loyal and decent.
Your comments only further my suspicion that you are a paranoid narcissist and I really hope you seek help, Tia. No one is bullying you, stalking you, calling you, impersonating you and you talk about these things as your latest drama, the last being your neighborhood kids that were trying to kill you. The danger that was so great, we took up a collection for you to buy a security system. Did you buy it, Tia?
As for disrespecting Pat, not one of my friends would ever do that, not in a million years and she knows this. That's why NONE of this has been talked about with her.
As for the furnace fund? Tia was fundraising on your behalf, asking everyone to donate money to help buy you a furnace. A benevolent act, to be sure.
The 'furnace fund' has been accounted for in full. Every penny of it and where it came from.
Now the 'club' needs to decide what to do with it. You can't return the majority of it because that came from Beth and she's dead. I don't want it. I never asked for anything and never will.
Though I always was amazed and appreciated everything everyone sent me, now I feel like some people in 'the club' were bullied into it. And that makes me feel really bad. Shitty, actually.
Ah, yes Angie, you did accuse me of being a paranoid narcissist that night also.....you also told me i had no life outside of my computer, no outside friends, and led a sad existence....you were not describing me......oh yeah, you told me i only blogged for validation and approval....uh i've never ever stated once on my blog that i wanted approval or people to like me....seemed to me that night and even now you were describing someone else.....'twasn't i.....
I have taken the MMPI and I score almost a ZERO on 'ego' which would make me FAR removed from a narcissist.....I do have Post Traumatic Stress, an anxiety disorder....I am not paranoid either....I have psychological and psychiatrist records to back that up.....
I do believe YOU are a smug snobby bitch.....and I believe your BFF who has an obsession with her vagina possibly being insulted is the one who is paranoid as she, and you, are the ones who harassed someone who dared remained my friend and you accused them of being a spy for me. A SPY! what the hell is this? 3rd grade??? you're an adult??? GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELVES!!!!!
I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU ANGIE OR TONYA there's a couple others too....i don't give a fuck what your group does and i would never ever ask anyone to be a spy....YOU are the ones who are paranoid.....why the fuck would you harass and bully someone??? how motherfucking immature is that????? you publicly state people can remain friends with whomever but privately you harassed and attacked them and made their life hell.....
my latest drama? oh dear.....see, that was real....there are police reports to verify that (and not just from me, there were at least 10 other neighbors who called the police during that month repeatedly).....and i even posted a picture of what i bought with the money that was generously donated towards me----there you go again insinuating i'm unscrupulous....
i wish i had saved those emails i received, and the LJ comments but i didn't want the negativity.....and i wish i hadn't deleted the voicemails....but i'm not the only one you and others harassed and some of them SAVED some of the messages that were sent....oh dear, how will you all explain that?? guess you'll have to diagnose them with something since you like to sit in your high and mighty chair and tell people what they are as you look down your nose at them.....
and you and your friends DID disrespect pat by impersonating me with anon comments and then you would post an insult towards me---why the fuck do that???? oh right, cuz you're a smug snobby bitch and apparently your buddies were upset i wasn't playing your one sided war game and i had moved on.....
you should have been satisfied i was gone from this site, but nope, you weren't....how sad is YOUR life that you have to bully other women and continue insulting someone who wasn't even on this site at the time?? maybe you should look at yourself in the mirror?
and as i wrote above in my prior comment---oh dear too much punctuation for you??? i stated 2 people donated, it wasn't you or any of your friends, they know what the money is being used for and it's none of your fucking business......
i came back here as pat invited me too....
keep portraying me as someone i am not......i know i'm not as you describe me, or as other try to portray me...and my friends know me too....my TRUE friends....so i guess i'm thankful for this situation for finding out who my true friends are....
Ultimately, no one gave anything that they didn't want to give. You've become like family to many of us, Lissa like the daughter/granddaughter many of us long to have.
I'm sorry that this is coming at your from left field. No one wanted it to come to this. If you're interested in hearing anyone's side of this, I'm sure many would be glad to oblige you, but in the end, I think people just want things to be calm and fun, like they've been these last few months.
Pat----i will take no orders from that 'club' with what to do with that money.......those people can go fuck themselves (or dear, was that an insult to a vagina???).....i owe "them" nothing.......
like i emailed you, i told you what the plan is.....if you do not like that plan, another plan will be made that is acceptable to you and the other who contributed (whom i will NOT name---as their privacy shall be protected)......
i never made anyone contribute anything......sometimes people contributed for one gift and sometimes for another....it was entirely up to them......i only wanted to know IF they were contributing so i would know when to expect it to plan on sending things out......
"I think people just want things to be calm and fun, like they've been these last few months."
ah, yes, another backhanded insult towards me....implying that i bring dramz to pat's site and i'm not fun???? who the fuck do you think you are???
you're trying to fucking control who comes to PAT'S SITE......who the fuck do you think you are????? you already had me gone from this site....but nope, you kept insulting me anyway in comments----that was fun for you wasn't it??? being the smug bitch you are.....
is that a psychological diagnosis? smug bitch? nah.....but it's what i think.....and if you felt someone was a SPY for me, you're definitely paranoid.....yeah....maybe that person who was harassed because they DARED to remain my friend could email pat and tell pat about how they were harassed about staying my friend, how they were accused of being a SPY and how someone sent them a nasty gram message (i shall respect their privacy and allow them to share that with pat if they choose).....maybe someone else can share with pat who they also were harassed.....oh yeah, there's another too......
let's see...there was several people who watched the conversation that night between you and i and with tonya.....they should weigh in too....someone even got email notifications and they READ THEM ALL!!!! (kudos to them for that, seriously).....they should definitely tell pat about what they read.....
yep....people should weigh in.....WITH THE TRUTH.....
I will go on the record as vowing to Pat that I have never attempted to contact Tia, have not visited her blog except to post about PLO a LONG time ago. I have no interest in her, her activities and would consider stalking her a waste of my time. I'm pretty sure the same applies to anyone I know. Pat herself knows to what extent I have spoken about this to her personally.
Angie is completely capable of composing eloquent posts all by herself. She is also an independent thinker. I personally value that in a friend as it offers a point of view other than my own which can be quite one dimensional and selfish at times.
I realize it might be interesting for someone to think a whole group of people can do nothing but speak of or follow you but speaking for myself I am completely indifferent to your existence except to wish you and your 'friends' well as fellow humans and that's it. Threatening suicide is indicative of serious issues and I hope you have gotten help for that.
Meanwhile, if you don't mind, I will continue on being completely indifferent.
I believe people should make their own choices about who they want as friends rather than be convinced by persuasion to believe one side or another. People who feel the need to accuse others are usually guilty of what they accuse others of doing. That is hands down the most common and valuable thing I have learned with experience from situations of drama caused by others.
I saw no conversation between the three of you but I will weight in with this truth. Profanity is weak. Threatening suicide as a way of getting attention is sick. Claiming to have attacked a teenager with a golf club and a dog and bragging about it is psychotic. I prefer reading posts that are well worded and do not resort to profanely insulting others as a replacement for logical argument. I would rather read a hundred well thought out posts by Angie than one more FUCK CHINA from Tia.
well i don't LIKE drama....that's why i left and i never wanted to disrespect your site by having drama here....but some peeps kept it up with insulting me--even when i wasn't here because they're not capable of moving on....they were too paranoid and worried about others being SPIES and trying to control who came to your site and commented and it's like they want you all to themselves or something......
it's fucking ridiculous and it's fucking sad that people couldn't just let it go.....but it's apparent angie had to keep it up with her smug bitch insults towards me---when i wasn't even here......and then the 'anon' would set up her insults with posting in my style so she could insult me....
her and her bff work in tandem like that quite oft.....set ups like that....just like they did to me in fans of dd, it was a set up.....it was a set up with what happened to rox too---and so everyone knows, i sent her an apology letter because i unwittingly played a part in that manipulative game.....and i felt bad about that situation from the day it happened and only after what happened to me did i realize it was a set up.....
sometimes you have manipulative games going on right in front of you and you're too blind to see it......hindsight is 20/20......
Pat, I have been reading here since I met you at Moon`s. I liked your stories and I cared about how you and Lissa were doing. I will always have you in the back of my mind, hoping all is right in your world. I would never tell you who you should or shouldnt have as a friend or fellow blogger. I would never make you choose. But I am making a choice now. Happy Samhain and happy life dear Dirty Disher!
nope, Frimmy never harassed me....that is true and i never implied or said anyone did.....no, i don't think it's psychotic to attack a trespasser with a golf club and dog, but to each their own.....
angie, in regards to privacy---if you recall, i posted and told everyone i had sent you & CJ all the contact info for everyone as i had made you admins for the groups so we would have a chain of command......i even sent pat an email telling her that too......so uh, my true colors?? no, YOUR true colors are showing with your continued attempts to portray me as someone i am not.....
re: privacy, with one exception, i have NEVER revealed who contributed what to a fund, NEVER EVER in fans of DD....when i emailed pat about the furnace fund i did tell her who contributed.....one was beth and the other is none of your fucking business....
oh dear, vulgarity....fuck it, don't care.....
and really, what was going on in my life, i was suicidal...who fuck wouldn't be....and so called fucking friends took advantage of me at that time---backed a wounded animal into a corner and kept poking with a stick over and over....you can only do that so long before the animal strikes back......
I can see some people have a different opinion of Miss Tia than I do. Since I wasn't there when all the trouble happened, I can only do what I always do, and that is base my opinion on how I have interacted with an individual. I have never been treated wrong by Miss Tia and have never felt the least bit intimidated or played by her.
I hope everyone can understand where I'm coming from. You sure have the right to your opinion and you can put it right on here. But, I have to go by how she's treated me. I know she's different (no offense, Tia), but, I'm different too.
I'm not going to beg everyone to get along. Just be straight up and you will be fine. So far, everyone is.
i don't think people need to get along---i don't mean that in a warrior way....Frimmy used the word "indifferent"....excellent word....
if someone doesn't like someone, just fucking ignore them....how difficult is that??? apparently pretty fucking difficult for angie, since she can't help the passive-aggressive comments......
i friend of mine went through all of the posts for the past month and a half and it was angie (i guess kudos for using your name??) who was posting the insults.....tonya never posted an insult under her name....it was angie.....
as for the off-this-site harassment, that's just fucking ridiculous and i'm still really fucking pissed that people were bullied because they stayed friends with me on FB.....i suppose i should let it go....but i guess that's another reason why i need to avoid this site because i see these people who attacked my friends and i am loyal and it makes me angry.......i can write off the harassment i got though i don't understand all of it--it went beyond being upset at me deleting fans.....but i can't really write off the harassment my friends were subjected too....that is obviously a character flaw of mine and i'm sure there's a diagnosis for that.....
You're accusing Angie and Tonya of setting you up, Tia? Are you fucking kidding me? YOU were the one who went after Rox. YOU were the one who went after Bima and mocked her incessantly over her 2.00 donation for a gift for DD that totaled up to only 1.61 after paypal fees, which we've since learned was actually much bigger donation, by the way. YOU were the one who sent Nancy B packing after you freaked when she didn't get her gift to DD to you in a timely matter. YOU were the reason Biz left, and YOU are the one who deleted the "Fans of DD" facebook group when Tonya challenged you to add someone else besides you as an admin. WHY would she want that, you ask? Because we were afraid you'd delete the group if you got mad. Gee...guess what happened? The reason Brooke and Rice were booted from the new group we created wasn't because they were still friends with you, it was because they LIED about being friends with you, which was shady. Everyone felt angry and betrayed by you at that point, and we needed a safe place to vent without the worry of someone feeding our words back to you. And it seems like we had good reason, since they DID go to you and tell you we thought they were your spies. Your own words, right here, outed them.
YOU are the bully, Tia. YOU are the one who's tried to dictate who posts here. Anyone remember Kiki and Jarhead?
I've never contacted you in any way since this whole thing has blown up. I'd REALLY love to see some proof of your "stalker". Surely, you have proof, right? You'd have to since you've been SO bullied. Give me a fucking break.
DD, I really, truly look up to you and love this site so much. It breaks my heart that you'd think badly about any of us based on lies. No one is stalking Tia and we've really tried to take the higher road, but fuck. The craziness that's been displayed, by her and her alone, has blown my mind.
Briezy, how can I think bad of anyone who says how they feel and does it with their own name? Nope. I am more proud of my readers today than I ever have been.
I was ready to delete this place this morning, but, now I feel like my readers have some major balls. You may not all get along, but, man, can you say what you think.
I was going to keep my thoughts to myself. I was having too much fun reading everyone's comments... and remembering my thoughts on your version. But now I must interject a comment. Briezy, you just said I lied. Sorry, but I was telling the truth. At that time I was not friends on FB with Tia. She blocked me at the same time everyone else was blocked. A very large part of my life has been based on truth, honesty and ethics (both personally & professionally). When I say something you can trust that it is the truth or an honest opinion. Yesterday when Tia said she was mailing me a letter was the first time I've heard/ had contact from her in any form (phone/ email/ USPS/ FB/ blog/ carrier pigeon or any other way). As for Brooke, she had the right to stay friends with anyone she wants. She was not running from one place to the other telling tales. I was defending Brooke's rights. When I was asked the final question before 'someone' so nicely deleted me... my answer still stands. Mean Girls. I believe Noelle (who was not involved in this) asked me what I thought about all of that / my opinion. I did not mean everyone in the group fell into that category. I was asked how I felt about the conversation, I commented on my observation as someone watching from the sidelines (altho, I was involved in the comments)
BTW, RE Kiki, I was the one that outed her, not Tia. If she hadn't been so stupid as to post a picture of the Brig Niagara from Wiki and claiming it was hers... she'd still be here. Stupid. The Brig is docked 10 miles from my house. Then everyone went on to find more lies.
I was going to keep my thoughts to myself. I was having too much fun reading everyone's comments... and remembering my thoughts on your version. But now I must interject a comment. Briezy, you just said I lied. Sorry, but I was telling the truth. At that time I was not friends on FB with Tia. She blocked me at the same time everyone else was blocked. A very large part of my life has been based on truth, honesty and ethics (both personally & professionally). When I say something you can trust that it is the truth or an honest opinion. Yesterday when Tia said she was mailing me a letter was the first time I've heard/ had contact from her in any form (phone/ email/ USPS/ FB/ blog/ carrier pigeon or any other way). As for Brooke, she had the right to stay friends with anyone she wants. She was not running from one place to the other telling tales. I was defending Brooke's rights. When I was asked the final question before 'someone' so nicely deleted me... my answer still stands. Mean Girls. I believe Noelle (who was not involved in this) asked me what I thought about all of that / my opinion. I did not mean everyone in the group fell into that category. I was asked how I felt about the conversation, I commented on my observation as someone watching from the sidelines (altho, I was involved in the comments)
BTW, RE Kiki, I was the one that outed her, not Tia. If she hadn't been so stupid as to post a picture of the Brig Niagara from Wiki and claiming it was hers... she'd still be here. Stupid. The Brig is docked 10 miles from my house.
I was going to keep my thoughts to myself. I was having too much fun reading everyone's comments... and remembering my thoughts on your version. But now I must interject a comment. Briezy, you just said I lied. Sorry, but I was telling the truth. At that time I was not friends on FB with Tia. She blocked me at the same time everyone else was blocked. A very large part of my life has been based on truth, honesty and ethics (both personally & professionally). When I say something you can trust that it is the truth or an honest opinion. Yesterday when Tia said she was mailing me a letter was the first time I've heard/ had contact from her in any form (phone/ email/ USPS/ FB/ blog/ carrier pigeon or any other way). As for Brooke, she had the right to stay friends with anyone she wants. She was not running from one place to the other telling tales. I was defending Brooke's rights. When I was asked the final question before 'someone' so nicely deleted me... my answer still stands. Mean Girls. I believe Noelle (who was not involved in this) asked me what I thought about all of that / my opinion. I did not mean everyone in the group fell into that category. I was asked how I felt about the conversation, I commented on my observation as someone watching from the sidelines (altho, I was involved in the comments)
I know it probably does seem high-schoolish from the outside, but there were real friendships and hearts broken over all of this. I'm glad it's coming to light.
Came back to hear what Angie and I did to Tia. Still want to know.
As for who read all the updates, I guess Tia doesn't know that there were several people reading that night. A few of them followed along for the whole thing. There's nothing that was said to you that was remotely out of line. You were not victimized or bullied in any way. You were asked the same question over and over again because you wouldn't answer it. Just like you're doing now. Just a lot of ranting and cursing and vagueness. Say how you were bullied, Tia. Tell us all what was done to you. I dare you.
Meissa, I read your comment on AG. I meant that no one would call Miss Tia a thief on here.
Turns out they didn't. I misunderstood. ME. I was thinking last night how much I missed you after seeing your old comments in the archives. You've been here since forever.
I adore you too and would kick someone's ass to hell and high water if they disparaged you on this blog. You are a sweetie and no matter what happens, I won't forget what an important part of this blog you are and always will be.
And I like it.
I. Want. One.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing wrong with making jack-o-lanterns, is that those darn kids always want to get in on the fun. The nerve of them! I love getting up to my armpitsin that pumpkin slime. Can't we adults just have one holiday all our own!!!!! hehe And don't try trick or treating as an adult---you don't get anything. They keep telling me I'm too old. The nerve!!!
ReplyDeleteBayou, in past years some of the adults in my neighborhood would start ringing doorbells after 8pm for their treats. Hand them a can of beer & they're happy.
ReplyDeleteClever.
ReplyDeleteoff topic from this post and i apologize, i am making an one time appearance and then i shall disappear again....
ReplyDeletePat---I have replied to your email, it's pretty long, so you might wanna pour a cup of coffee first.....
CJ-----i'm mailing you a letter in the mail as I owe you an apology.....postal service needs the support too....
Anon from the Chinese food post (thanks to everyone who told me about that post since this is my first visit back since towards the end of august)---your impersonation skills of me suck ass, though i guess i should be flattered i have an impersonator?? Wow, I have my own troll and impersonator.....
i'm logging in via my google account, so ya'll know it's me....
here's the real deal:
FUCK IMPERSONATORS!!!!!!!!
FUCK CHINA!!!!!!!!!
Halloween is for kids. Samhain is for adults. Join the dark side. You won't regret it.
ReplyDeleteTia, I adore you and I'm going to go read my email and beg you to come back again.
ReplyDeleteHey! I was already on the dark side. I always have been, but I just called it life. My life is the dark side. But you don't get candy for Samhain!
ReplyDeleteMiss Tia, I've been wondering! Miss ya!
There...is...candy. Lots of it. And mead and harvest food. It's like thanksgiving, only you don't have to pretend you like your family and there are ghosts and music and fire and dancin' in the moonlight and holy shit, did you see that!! Lots of it.
ReplyDeleteThat is 20 kinds of Awesome!
ReplyDeleteSo were your pics. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteA friend told me DD replied to my comment, so I can back.....
ReplyDeletePat---i replied to your reply....figured i'd comment here in case you don't check your email for a bit...and you know i adore you too!!
Hi Bayou Jane!! I've missed you too!! How ya doing????
CAME back, not can back....definitely bed time!!!
ReplyDeleteoh i even changed my blogger google account pix, to further verify my identity.....this is me in my infamous natural pose....i believe i should name this picture FUCK CHINA!!!!.....
Hey Tia, long time, no see. As long as you're here, me and the girls were wondering what ever happened to DD's furnace fund you started collecting for? Wasn't there like a hundred bucks there? Let us know :)
ReplyDeletehhh
ReplyDeletedont mind me, just stuffing round with my id
ReplyDeletewas wondering what happened to miss tia
ReplyDeleteThe ONLY reason I am responding to you angie is because i do not like the implications you are making about me with your comment.....i've heard about the comments you've made about me here and i haven't even been here and in my opinion that's very disprespectful to pat and that's why i left in the first place---since some people just had to bring the dramz here and it irks my ire to no end people who profess to care about pat disrespected her to the point that their hatred for me blinded them to the fact that they were ultimately hurting pat by bringing shit here that did not belong here...and really? move the fuck on...grow up, move on, it's not that hard to do....try it, you might like it...
ReplyDeleteand yes, it does piss me off i feel i can't come to my friend pat's site anymore because of the vitriol in the comments....i'm sure that'll make you all laugh with glee, have a chuckle or two on me this morning...one would think though, being a bully is a hollow kind of victory, but i dunno....have your victory....oh wait, you had it....still didn't make you happy....hollow victory, eh? ....guess you'll have to make another target soon i suppose.....who are you getting sick of now?
y'all just should have been happy that you had ostracized me and forced me from pat's site, but nope, guess y'all weren't satisfied with that...y'all ostracized and forced others from here too for the simple fact that they were my friend....and yet someone still impersonates me in the comments so you can post insults to an imaginary me......i guess y'all did that since i had to block email addresses, close off comments on my LJ, i listen to VMs w/o listening, etc, you weren't getting a reaction from me....oh dear, how dare i not play along with you?
but in regards to your question, 2 people contributed, you were not one of them.....nor were any of your fellow friends.....those 2 people know what the money is going too....other than that, i owe you, nor any of your friends any other explanation as it is none of your business.....
as i have said on my blog i truly appreciate your former friendship and the time i knew you all (certain former members of fans of DD) and i am thankful for that....and now? i do not know you, maybe i didn't know any of you in the first place.....
i wish no one ill will, though i wish the harassment would stop and it really pisses me the fuck off what was done to a couple friends of mine, specifically to one of them-----the excessive harassment of them really really REALLY was uncalled for and really? it shouldn't have been in the first place....because people should be able to be friends with whomever they want without anyone being paranoid, people should be able to visit a mutual friends website without being attacked in the comments because of respect towards that person and i think the bullying, tyranny and harassment that has been directed towards me and several others goes far beyond any anger at me for deleting fans of DD (why be angry at the others? oh yeah, they stayed friends with me and didn't join the bully bunch...) and it just makes me sad that grown women are banded together in such a way....
Part II below.....
i apologize for this comment pat....i DO respect you and that's why i left in the first place....to avoid all this shit....angie and "them" know how to push my buttons and get a reaction.....and attacking my integrity, attacking my friends and showing you, Pat, disrespect, by bringing this here....has really ticked me off this morning....so i'm sure they're very pleased with themselves and probably giving angie lots of high fives and praise on her comment.....
ReplyDeletelike i posted above, please check your email pat....and if you reply, well check your email maybe a few hours later, because i'll reply in a very timely fashion but i won't post here that i've replied because i am not coming back here.....all the bullying and harassment just causes me vast anxiety and my anxiety had leveled off so nicely....i need to get back to my nice relaxed state (it was bliss, truly).....you know i love you Pat.....
and with that.....i am NOT returning to this thread.....nor this site.....i am out....feel pleased with yourself Angie (and cohorts, i know y'all worked hours on what to post towards me here)....you've won your one sided war....
Peace!
YOU don't have to apologize for a damn thing, Tia. Let it rip. WTF furnace fund????
ReplyDeleteAngie, you need to explain that comment. Who are 'the girls' you refer to? What the fuck is a furnace fund? And why are you asking Miss Tia about it?
ReplyDeleteI will delete this blog before I let Miss Tia be disparaged on here. She is someone I trust completly and she has never been anything but loyal and decent.
Your comments only further my suspicion that you are a paranoid narcissist and I really hope you seek help, Tia. No one is bullying you, stalking you, calling you, impersonating you and you talk about these things as your latest drama, the last being your neighborhood kids that were trying to kill you. The danger that was so great, we took up a collection for you to buy a security system. Did you buy it, Tia?
ReplyDeleteAs for disrespecting Pat, not one of my friends would ever do that, not in a million years and she knows this. That's why NONE of this has been talked about with her.
As for the furnace fund? Tia was fundraising on your behalf, asking everyone to donate money to help buy you a furnace. A benevolent act, to be sure.
The 'furnace fund' has been accounted for in full. Every penny of it and where it came from.
ReplyDeleteNow the 'club' needs to decide what to do with it. You can't return the majority of it because that came from Beth and she's dead. I don't want it. I never asked for anything and never will.
Though I always was amazed and appreciated everything everyone sent me, now I feel like some people in 'the club' were bullied into it. And that makes me feel really bad. Shitty, actually.
Ah, yes Angie, you did accuse me of being a paranoid narcissist that night also.....you also told me i had no life outside of my computer, no outside friends, and led a sad existence....you were not describing me......oh yeah, you told me i only blogged for validation and approval....uh i've never ever stated once on my blog that i wanted approval or people to like me....seemed to me that night and even now you were describing someone else.....'twasn't i.....
ReplyDeleteI have taken the MMPI and I score almost a ZERO on 'ego' which would make me FAR removed from a narcissist.....I do have Post Traumatic Stress, an anxiety disorder....I am not paranoid either....I have psychological and psychiatrist records to back that up.....
I do believe YOU are a smug snobby bitch.....and I believe your BFF who has an obsession with her vagina possibly being insulted is the one who is paranoid as she, and you, are the ones who harassed someone who dared remained my friend and you accused them of being a spy for me. A SPY! what the hell is this? 3rd grade??? you're an adult??? GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELVES!!!!!
I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU ANGIE OR TONYA there's a couple others too....i don't give a fuck what your group does and i would never ever ask anyone to be a spy....YOU are the ones who are paranoid.....why the fuck would you harass and bully someone??? how motherfucking immature is that????? you publicly state people can remain friends with whomever but privately you harassed and attacked them and made their life hell.....
my latest drama? oh dear.....see, that was real....there are police reports to verify that (and not just from me, there were at least 10 other neighbors who called the police during that month repeatedly).....and i even posted a picture of what i bought with the money that was generously donated towards me----there you go again insinuating i'm unscrupulous....
i wish i had saved those emails i received, and the LJ comments but i didn't want the negativity.....and i wish i hadn't deleted the voicemails....but i'm not the only one you and others harassed and some of them SAVED some of the messages that were sent....oh dear, how will you all explain that?? guess you'll have to diagnose them with something since you like to sit in your high and mighty chair and tell people what they are as you look down your nose at them.....
and you and your friends DID disrespect pat by impersonating me with anon comments and then you would post an insult towards me---why the fuck do that???? oh right, cuz you're a smug snobby bitch and apparently your buddies were upset i wasn't playing your one sided war game and i had moved on.....
you should have been satisfied i was gone from this site, but nope, you weren't....how sad is YOUR life that you have to bully other women and continue insulting someone who wasn't even on this site at the time?? maybe you should look at yourself in the mirror?
and as i wrote above in my prior comment---oh dear too much punctuation for you??? i stated 2 people donated, it wasn't you or any of your friends, they know what the money is being used for and it's none of your fucking business......
i came back here as pat invited me too....
keep portraying me as someone i am not......i know i'm not as you describe me, or as other try to portray me...and my friends know me too....my TRUE friends....so i guess i'm thankful for this situation for finding out who my true friends are....
Ultimately, no one gave anything that they didn't want to give. You've become like family to many of us, Lissa like the daughter/granddaughter many of us long to have.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry that this is coming at your from left field. No one wanted it to come to this. If you're interested in hearing anyone's side of this, I'm sure many would be glad to oblige you, but in the end, I think people just want things to be calm and fun, like they've been these last few months.
Pat----i will take no orders from that 'club' with what to do with that money.......those people can go fuck themselves (or dear, was that an insult to a vagina???).....i owe "them" nothing.......
ReplyDeletelike i emailed you, i told you what the plan is.....if you do not like that plan, another plan will be made that is acceptable to you and the other who contributed (whom i will NOT name---as their privacy shall be protected)......
i never made anyone contribute anything......sometimes people contributed for one gift and sometimes for another....it was entirely up to them......i only wanted to know IF they were contributing so i would know when to expect it to plan on sending things out......
"I think people just want things to be calm and fun, like they've been these last few months."
ReplyDeleteah, yes, another backhanded insult towards me....implying that i bring dramz to pat's site and i'm not fun???? who the fuck do you think you are???
you're trying to fucking control who comes to PAT'S SITE......who the fuck do you think you are????? you already had me gone from this site....but nope, you kept insulting me anyway in comments----that was fun for you wasn't it??? being the smug bitch you are.....
is that a psychological diagnosis? smug bitch? nah.....but it's what i think.....and if you felt someone was a SPY for me, you're definitely paranoid.....yeah....maybe that person who was harassed because they DARED to remain my friend could email pat and tell pat about how they were harassed about staying my friend, how they were accused of being a SPY and how someone sent them a nasty gram message (i shall respect their privacy and allow them to share that with pat if they choose).....maybe someone else can share with pat who they also were harassed.....oh yeah, there's another too......
let's see...there was several people who watched the conversation that night between you and i and with tonya.....they should weigh in too....someone even got email notifications and they READ THEM ALL!!!! (kudos to them for that, seriously).....they should definitely tell pat about what they read.....
yep....people should weigh in.....WITH THE TRUTH.....
Alright, I'm glad we're all calm now. Of course I will listen to anyone's side.
ReplyDeleteTia, you are correct. And you made me laugh.
Also, I am not a bit afraid of drama. All of you can bring on all the drama you feel you need to bring. Drama away. I will be reading.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, no drama there at all...
ReplyDeleteI will go on the record as vowing to Pat that I have never attempted to contact Tia, have not visited her blog except to post about PLO a LONG time ago. I have no interest in her, her activities and would consider stalking her a waste of my time. I'm pretty sure the same applies to anyone I know. Pat herself knows to what extent I have spoken about this to her personally.
Angie is completely capable of composing eloquent posts all by herself. She is also an independent thinker. I personally value that in a friend as it offers a point of view other than my own which can be quite one dimensional and selfish at times.
I realize it might be interesting for someone to think a whole group of people can do nothing but speak of or follow you but speaking for myself I am completely indifferent to your existence except to wish you and your 'friends' well as fellow humans and that's it. Threatening suicide is indicative of serious issues and I hope you have gotten help for that.
Meanwhile, if you don't mind, I will continue on being completely indifferent.
I believe people should make their own choices about who they want as friends rather than be convinced by persuasion to believe one side or another. People who feel the need to accuse others are usually guilty of what they accuse others of doing. That is hands down the most common and valuable thing I have learned with experience from situations of drama caused by others.
I saw no conversation between the three of you but I will weight in with this truth. Profanity is weak. Threatening suicide as a way of getting attention is sick. Claiming to have attacked a teenager with a golf club and a dog and bragging about it is psychotic. I prefer reading posts that are well worded and do not resort to profanely insulting others as a replacement for logical argument. I would rather read a hundred well thought out posts by Angie than one more FUCK CHINA from Tia.
Live long and prosper, DD.
Privacy protected?? You mean the way you protected everyone's name, address and phone number when you sent them all out to me and one other?
ReplyDeleteBe careful, Tia. Your true colors are starting to show.
well i don't LIKE drama....that's why i left and i never wanted to disrespect your site by having drama here....but some peeps kept it up with insulting me--even when i wasn't here because they're not capable of moving on....they were too paranoid and worried about others being SPIES and trying to control who came to your site and commented and it's like they want you all to themselves or something......
ReplyDeleteit's fucking ridiculous and it's fucking sad that people couldn't just let it go.....but it's apparent angie had to keep it up with her smug bitch insults towards me---when i wasn't even here......and then the 'anon' would set up her insults with posting in my style so she could insult me....
her and her bff work in tandem like that quite oft.....set ups like that....just like they did to me in fans of dd, it was a set up.....it was a set up with what happened to rox too---and so everyone knows, i sent her an apology letter because i unwittingly played a part in that manipulative game.....and i felt bad about that situation from the day it happened and only after what happened to me did i realize it was a set up.....
sometimes you have manipulative games going on right in front of you and you're too blind to see it......hindsight is 20/20......
Frim, THAT was a well worded post. I appreciate your opinion. Thanks for having some balls.
ReplyDeletePat,
ReplyDeleteI have been reading here since I met you at Moon`s. I liked your stories and I cared about how you and Lissa were doing. I will always have you in the back of my mind, hoping all is right in your world. I would never tell you who you should or shouldnt have as a friend or fellow blogger. I would never make you choose. But I am making a choice now.
Happy Samhain and happy life dear Dirty Disher!
nope, Frimmy never harassed me....that is true and i never implied or said anyone did.....no, i don't think it's psychotic to attack a trespasser with a golf club and dog, but to each their own.....
ReplyDeleteangie, in regards to privacy---if you recall, i posted and told everyone i had sent you & CJ all the contact info for everyone as i had made you admins for the groups so we would have a chain of command......i even sent pat an email telling her that too......so uh, my true colors?? no, YOUR true colors are showing with your continued attempts to portray me as someone i am not.....
re: privacy, with one exception, i have NEVER revealed who contributed what to a fund, NEVER EVER in fans of DD....when i emailed pat about the furnace fund i did tell her who contributed.....one was beth and the other is none of your fucking business....
oh dear, vulgarity....fuck it, don't care.....
and really, what was going on in my life, i was suicidal...who fuck wouldn't be....and so called fucking friends took advantage of me at that time---backed a wounded animal into a corner and kept poking with a stick over and over....you can only do that so long before the animal strikes back......
I can see some people have a different opinion of Miss Tia than I do. Since I wasn't there when all the trouble happened, I can only do what I always do, and that is base my opinion on how I have interacted with an individual. I have never been treated wrong by Miss Tia and have never felt the least bit intimidated or played by her.
ReplyDeleteI hope everyone can understand where I'm coming from. You sure have the right to your opinion and you can put it right on here. But, I have to go by how she's treated me. I know she's different (no offense, Tia), but, I'm different too.
I'm not going to beg everyone to get along. Just be straight up and you will be fine. So far, everyone is.
edit my above post---first paragraph---"that is true and i never implied or said anyone did."
ReplyDeleteshould be "that is true and i never implied or said SHE did."
Frimmy never harassed me...never.....
others did and they harassed others and i hope they will email pat and tell her about it.....i know one has evidence of it.....
Oh, and as for vugarity? I have the prize for that. I'm rather proud of it.
ReplyDeletei don't think people need to get along---i don't mean that in a warrior way....Frimmy used the word "indifferent"....excellent word....
ReplyDeleteif someone doesn't like someone, just fucking ignore them....how difficult is that??? apparently pretty fucking difficult for angie, since she can't help the passive-aggressive comments......
i friend of mine went through all of the posts for the past month and a half and it was angie (i guess kudos for using your name??) who was posting the insults.....tonya never posted an insult under her name....it was angie.....
as for the off-this-site harassment, that's just fucking ridiculous and i'm still really fucking pissed that people were bullied because they stayed friends with me on FB.....i suppose i should let it go....but i guess that's another reason why i need to avoid this site because i see these people who attacked my friends and i am loyal and it makes me angry.......i can write off the harassment i got though i don't understand all of it--it went beyond being upset at me deleting fans.....but i can't really write off the harassment my friends were subjected too....that is obviously a character flaw of mine and i'm sure there's a diagnosis for that.....
It has its place and I cede to your superior ability in that area. I have laughed myself to tears many times on this blog.
ReplyDeleteYou're accusing Angie and Tonya of setting you up, Tia? Are you fucking kidding me? YOU were the one who went after Rox. YOU were the one who went after Bima and mocked her incessantly over her 2.00 donation for a gift for DD that totaled up to only 1.61 after paypal fees, which we've since learned was actually much bigger donation, by the way. YOU were the one who sent Nancy B packing after you freaked when she didn't get her gift to DD to you in a timely matter. YOU were the reason Biz left, and YOU are the one who deleted the "Fans of DD" facebook group when Tonya challenged you to add someone else besides you as an admin. WHY would she want that, you ask? Because we were afraid you'd delete the group if you got mad. Gee...guess what happened? The reason Brooke and Rice were booted from the new group we created wasn't because they were still friends with you, it was because they LIED about being friends with you, which was shady. Everyone felt angry and betrayed by you at that point, and we needed a safe place to vent without the worry of someone feeding our words back to you. And it seems like we had good reason, since they DID go to you and tell you we thought they were your spies. Your own words, right here, outed them.
ReplyDeleteYOU are the bully, Tia. YOU are the one who's tried to dictate who posts here. Anyone remember Kiki and Jarhead?
I've never contacted you in any way since this whole thing has blown up. I'd REALLY love to see some proof of your "stalker". Surely, you have proof, right? You'd have to since you've been SO bullied. Give me a fucking break.
DD, I really, truly look up to you and love this site so much. It breaks my heart that you'd think badly about any of us based on lies. No one is stalking Tia and we've really tried to take the higher road, but fuck. The craziness that's been displayed, by her and her alone, has blown my mind.
Briezy, how can I think bad of anyone who says how they feel and does it with their own name? Nope. I am more proud of my readers today than I ever have been.
ReplyDeleteThank you, DD. I appreciate that.
ReplyDeleteI was ready to delete this place this morning, but, now I feel like my readers have some major balls. You may not all get along, but, man, can you say what you think.
ReplyDeleteI was going to keep my thoughts to myself. I was having too much fun reading everyone's comments... and remembering my thoughts on your version. But now I must interject a comment. Briezy, you just said I lied. Sorry, but I was telling the truth. At that time I was not friends on FB with Tia. She blocked me at the same time everyone else was blocked. A very large part of my life has been based on truth, honesty and ethics (both personally & professionally). When I say something you can trust that it is the truth or an honest opinion. Yesterday when Tia said she was mailing me a letter was the first time I've heard/ had contact from her in any form (phone/ email/ USPS/ FB/ blog/ carrier pigeon or any other way). As for Brooke, she had the right to stay friends with anyone she wants. She was not running from one place to the other telling tales. I was defending Brooke's rights. When I was asked the final question before 'someone' so nicely deleted me... my answer still stands. Mean Girls. I believe Noelle (who was not involved in this) asked me what I thought about all of that / my opinion. I did not mean everyone in the group fell into that category. I was asked how I felt about the conversation, I commented on my observation as someone watching from the sidelines (altho, I was involved in the comments)
ReplyDeleteBTW, RE Kiki, I was the one that outed her, not Tia. If she hadn't been so stupid as to post a picture of the Brig Niagara from Wiki and claiming it was hers... she'd still be here. Stupid. The Brig is docked 10 miles from my house. Then everyone went on to find more lies.
I was going to keep my thoughts to myself. I was having too much fun reading everyone's comments... and remembering my thoughts on your version. But now I must interject a comment. Briezy, you just said I lied. Sorry, but I was telling the truth. At that time I was not friends on FB with Tia. She blocked me at the same time everyone else was blocked. A very large part of my life has been based on truth, honesty and ethics (both personally & professionally). When I say something you can trust that it is the truth or an honest opinion. Yesterday when Tia said she was mailing me a letter was the first time I've heard/ had contact from her in any form (phone/ email/ USPS/ FB/ blog/ carrier pigeon or any other way). As for Brooke, she had the right to stay friends with anyone she wants. She was not running from one place to the other telling tales. I was defending Brooke's rights. When I was asked the final question before 'someone' so nicely deleted me... my answer still stands. Mean Girls. I believe Noelle (who was not involved in this) asked me what I thought about all of that / my opinion. I did not mean everyone in the group fell into that category. I was asked how I felt about the conversation, I commented on my observation as someone watching from the sidelines (altho, I was involved in the comments)
ReplyDeleteBTW, RE Kiki, I was the one that outed her, not Tia. If she hadn't been so stupid as to post a picture of the Brig Niagara from Wiki and claiming it was hers... she'd still be here. Stupid. The Brig is docked 10 miles from my house.
I was going to keep my thoughts to myself. I was having too much fun reading everyone's comments... and remembering my thoughts on your version. But now I must interject a comment. Briezy, you just said I lied. Sorry, but I was telling the truth. At that time I was not friends on FB with Tia. She blocked me at the same time everyone else was blocked. A very large part of my life has been based on truth, honesty and ethics (both personally & professionally). When I say something you can trust that it is the truth or an honest opinion. Yesterday when Tia said she was mailing me a letter was the first time I've heard/ had contact from her in any form (phone/ email/ USPS/ FB/ blog/ carrier pigeon or any other way). As for Brooke, she had the right to stay friends with anyone she wants. She was not running from one place to the other telling tales. I was defending Brooke's rights. When I was asked the final question before 'someone' so nicely deleted me... my answer still stands. Mean Girls. I believe Noelle (who was not involved in this) asked me what I thought about all of that / my opinion. I did not mean everyone in the group fell into that category. I was asked how I felt about the conversation, I commented on my observation as someone watching from the sidelines (altho, I was involved in the comments)
ReplyDeleteIs this how high school is over the pond? pissing myself laughing at this whole thread. been feeling shitty all day, thanks for the crack.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome for the crack. Change your pants now.
ReplyDeleteOh, I never went to high school! I'm in it now? Fucking cool.
ReplyDeleteI know it probably does seem high-schoolish from the outside, but there were real friendships and hearts broken over all of this. I'm glad it's coming to light.
ReplyDeleteI'm reading the comments and I'm angry and I'm shaking. Tia, quit being mysterious and say what I and Angie have done to you. Say it right out.
ReplyDeleteWell, that's a waste of a perfectly good sugar pie punkin.
ReplyDeleteCame back to hear what Angie and I did to Tia. Still want to know.
ReplyDeleteAs for who read all the updates, I guess Tia doesn't know that there were several people reading that night. A few of them followed along for the whole thing. There's nothing that was said to you that was remotely out of line. You were not victimized or bullied in any way. You were asked the same question over and over again because you wouldn't answer it. Just like you're doing now. Just a lot of ranting and cursing and vagueness. Say how you were bullied, Tia. Tell us all what was done to you. I dare you.
Meissa, I read your comment on AG. I meant that no one would call Miss Tia a thief on here.
ReplyDeleteTurns out they didn't. I misunderstood. ME. I was thinking last night how much I missed you after seeing your old comments in the archives. You've been here since forever.
I adore you too and would kick someone's ass to hell and high water if they disparaged you on this blog. You are a sweetie and no matter what happens, I won't forget what an important part of this blog you are and always will be.
Pat, please check your e-mail.
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