The Hayes family has a new show on TLC..it's Twins, Twins And Sextuplets. Yep, that's two more kids than Kate Gosselin's magic uterus was able to produce. Here's the deal, these people are infinitely more likable that crazy Kate and greedy Jon and their band of loony squirrel monkeys, but, like the Gosselin's, the Hayes' are handing me that foul old line "we tried for just one more and ended up with six!" Like they had no idea fertility treatment would get them a litter. Please..shut the fuck up with that tired bullshit. Everyone knows that and it's insulting to be handed shit on platter. But, unlike the Gosselin's, who got lucky, all their kids are healthy, the Hayes' luck ran out. Little Rebbeca has Cerebral Palsy. She's a precious little girl, and through no fault of her own, her brain did not develop. She doesn't walk, doesn't talk and doesn't throw hissy fits for professional pedicures like Mady Freekin' Gosselin. Mostly, she just lays there like a very pretty pumpkin, watching her siblings have a life. It makes me cry. And all of you know, I don't give a fuck about much, but, this kid breaks my cold heart. Knowing she'll never have a shot at a real life thanks to being born in a litter. I will say, it's clear her parents adore her and keep her at home and I admire that, but, her conditon is their fault. That'd be hard to live with, huu? So let's give them a TV show. (rolls eyes)*
I don't know about you, but, I'm going to just say it...even if I get called an unfeeling whore..if you have kids already, NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU FERTILITY TREATMENTS. It should be against the law. The Hayes' already had two sets of twins before the little ones came along. 3 boys and a girl. That should be enough. If it's not, adopt. I don't care if I sound harsh. I'm done watching these breeders who knock out kids like a stray cat. Oh, and fuck them showing their kids on the potty. That's so ignorant. Just send your kids pic to the pedo web site and let 'em be the centerfold. Because it's clear to me..money means more than your children. They seem like real nice kids..now get them the fuck off TV before they're ruined like those Gosselin brats.
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DD,
You are right. Well said. I worked in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit as a RN.
I saw so many multiples. I began to question quality of life issues for these IVF babies. I am not religious, but I am spiritual. If you can't conceive after a few IVF treatments, it may be time to consider that your body wasn't meant to carry a baby, muchless a litter.
I had parents that had tried IVF > 10 times. One child stands out in my mind, he was the result of the 16th IVF treatment. He went home with a trach, on a vent & with a feeding tube. But hey, they got their baby. Too bad that poor little soul will never have QUALITY of life. He went home in an ambulance. So sad.
Remember the snaggle toothed mom who had one of the first litters? I can't remember her name. She used to infuriate me when I saw her on TV, saying that, "God wanted this to happen, blah, blah, blah." No darling, God made you infertile, science & technology made you a mother.
Sorry for the rant.
Love you DD.
Yep, that mom of a litter of seven, Bobbi McCaughey, was from here in Iowa. And she already had one kid. They always blame it on God, always.
"unfeeling whore" is too good for you, DirtyDoucher. You are sick.
Oh? Let's ask Rebecca Hayes what she thinks. Oh, wait, she can't answer..and she never will. But, by golly her parents got their litter and a TV show! Thank God for that.
I agree. It's one thing if you can't have kids and you really want them and you go the IVF route. But trying it over and over is ridiculous and wasteful. Just adopt. And it's selfish to try an carry a littler...we're not built like dogs or cats stupid. Reduce or live with the fact that you fucked up your kids' lives.
Better yet, save your money and try Traditional Chinese Medicine. No known side effects.
I don't understand what is wrong with these parents! If you already have four kids, why in the world do you need infertility treatments? Four is enough!
That being said, as an only child with one child herself and all extended family on the other side of the pond, I am totally addicted to watching these shows & the interaction of siblings.
To 3:52 pm from 3:23 pm,
If you don't like what DD has to say, visit another blog. There are some of us in this world who believe in QUALITY of life. This is a forum for people to give their opinions, you don't need to name call our DD. Some of us here have seen sick children. It is the most difficult thing in the world. Having worked in a NICU, I can tell you that a normal birth & healthy baby is a miracle. I know what can go wrong.
Who are you to call DD names?
Not only am I a care giver of sick children, I am a woman who needs genetic counseling to have a child. I won't gamble even though technology might be able to help me. Not only is it a quality of life issue for a precious human being you are responsible for bringing into the world, but what if you die before this innocent, helpless soul? Don't people consider consequences any more?
DD, I love you & keep at it. Yours, Sprite
These shows aren't on in Australia (yet) but it seems from following all the commentary on the net that at least one of these families is putting out as many kids as possible because of their own religious agenda? Nevermind that fertility treatment hardly fits with gawd's grand plan.
Its a Vagina not a clown car.
this woman is a child collector. or loves being a breeder
IVF people crack me up, they think they are so special and call each one of their little freaks of nature "a gift from God".
you can go to a "barrio" or "hood" in any city and find a house/trailer full of kids, conceived on accident by an underage mother like the good lord intended!
"God wanted this to happen, blah, blah, blah." No darling, God made you infertile, science & technology made you a mother.
Amen to that. I'm also sick of these breeders. It's horrible what lenghts some of these people go to have their "mini me" versions. Sick.
I'm guessing that the more babies you carry at once, the higher the risk of birth defects. If that's so, then I think parents should have to sign contracts if they get fertility treatments, saying if more than 3 embryos grow, the rest should be reduced. Healthy children should be the goal, not having as many children at one time as you possibly can. But that's just my opinion.
Carol: I totally agree. The ones who have television shows, though, refuse selective reduction, because of their religion, and cite how it is not "God's will" that they "murder" innocent children.
I don't think it was "God's will" for them to be mucking around with biology, and then make an innocent child suffer for being en-wombed in a brood and not developing properly. :(
All of you people are messed up, depressed individuals.
This is ridiculous. The Hayes's are terrific parents, and as long as they can provide good care for their family, it's up to them how many children they have.
Kids are born with diabilities all the time--whether there's a multiple birth or not--and I think there are few parents who could offer a better environment for a child with special needs than the Hayeses.
How about all the bad parents out there who raise spoiled, overindulged, bratty kids with behavioral problems? I'd rather see the Hayes raising 10 kids than many parents who don't seem to be able to handle one.
Now, when it comes to the Gosselins, I agree. They are not good parents and shouldn't have reproduced at all.
You are so right. If you already have 4 kids, you should be happy with that and know that you are really lucky to have 4 healthy kids. Why would you try for "just one more" with fertility treatments if you know you are definitely going to get more than just one. They are crazy. They should have seen what was coming. They are lucky 9 out of the 10 are healthy, and they'll just blame Rebecca and the rest of the six on God, just like everyone else.
You're right. Why should the Hayes have a TV show that follows them everywhere they go? What makes them so special? They deserve a show the least out of everybody else. They should have known better. If they wanted just one more, they should have thought about it before just going for another fertility treatment. They should have thought about all the other couples out there who can't even get one kid, let alone two sets of twins. They should have been thankful for what they had, but instead, they had to push their luck and try for "just one more". What if more than one of the sextuplets had cerebral palsy like Rebecca? It's not fair to Rebecca to get into this, but I have to. Rebecca never would have been like that if the Hayes didn't want another kid.
I think that if you already have kids, you should just leave it be. How do you think the two sets of twins felt when they found out their dear precious mommy was having sextuplets? Their quality of life is ruined now, because they can't live one day without having six preschoolers shouting all day at them. Why can't parents ever think of the kids they already have before they go out and do this? People shouldn't do this stuff. If they can't have kids naturally, they shouldn't have kids at all. What do you think people did before IVF? THEY ADOPTED THEIR KIDS!! Why should people just create new lives through IVF that will never be of the same quality as if it was a natural pregnancy? The whole thing is just horrible.
When people can't get pregnant on their own, they go to get fertility treatments. That's when all the bad things start happening. Everybody knows that you can rarely get just one kid out of IVF. They know what they are getting themselves into, just they are too stupid to think of the lives they are creating through this. All they think about is themselves, the selfish little people they are. They just want a kid, and I feel bad for that kid, alright.
AMEN to that! I'm glad someone has the guts to say it.
I'm not going to weigh in on the bigger issue at hand here b/c I think it's all already been said. I just wanted to point out that the Hayes parents were aware that it was possible they would end up with another set of multiples.
When they were talking about the decision to have more kids, they said something like "we realized we could get another set of twins, possibly triplets." I'm not saying they were right or wrong in their actions. I'm just pointing out that they were smart enough to know that they might not get "just one more."
I'm guessing actually that the Hayeses, like the Gosselins, and every other high order mulitple family I can think of probably used IUI and not IVF. IVF usually only gets you one kid, if lucky, and maybe twins, very rarely triplets, but they never plant more than four embryos. IUI is where you get lots of eggs, and then using either artificial insemination, or timing and the old fashioned way, the eggs are then fertilized. It's cheaper to use IUI unless you end up with high order mulitples, which are a risk (obviously).
Honestly? Who are any of you to say what a couple should or should not do with their bodies or regarding children. How are these families with multiples that had them through fertility treatments any different than the Dugger family that had their 18 children naturally???
As for their parenting skills or lack there of... think about it... if you are on tv throughout your entire day, how many things could be shown on tv that you would be less than happy to have other people see because it would look poorly!?!?
Blah!
Wow, haters! Who are you to decide who should live, die, reproduce... As far as little Rebecca Hayes, she will probably have an incredible life BECAUSE of all of her siblings. They all accept her for who she is and love her. That's more than a lot of "normal" kids get! Furthermore, I see news stories about people with one or two kids who lock them in the closet until they starve to death or set them on fire, or scald them in the bathtub (2 of these in Colorado in the past year). What difference is it to you if they have 1, 3, 10, or 18 kids? Let me know when you become perfect, and then you can open your big mouths.
I tend to agree with Shelly. Hell, I'm not even a parent and I wouldn't want some of the stuff I do on a daily basis to be shown on TV.
Those kids are loved and well-cared for, even if some of you don't agree w/ how these people parent. Like the post above says, just look at some of the terrible ways people treat kids and then complain about these families.
I understand being tired of seeing these families w/ multiples on TV, but if you'd rather not see it anymore, it's really as simple as just changing the channel.
First you should get your facts straight. The Hayes didn't do IVF treatment. Kids are born with disabilities everyday, to no fault of their own and to no fault of their parents. Who are you all for judging people who want to have more children. At least these people care for and love their children. The Hayes are one of the most normal, well rounded families you will ever meet!
The vast majority of you are incredibly misinformed about the IVF process. It can yield a multiple embryo pregnancy and if the parents religion dictates that reduction is forbidden, the end result is more then one baby. But typically the result of IVF is one healthy baby and happy parents who would've otherwise struggled for years to have a child. Rebecca is special needs, whether this is attributable to the fact that she was part of a septuplet birth is not a hard fact. Its simply a gamble when it comes to chromosomal abnormalities or genetic mutations. To state that its "the parents fault" is absolutely disgusting, do not pass judgment on someone you've never met. I'd rather the Gosselins, the Hayes, the McCaugheys, the Dilleys or The Duggars reproduce exponentially then some trampy uncaring abusive person.
hey dirty disher you need to shut up if you don't like what the gosselin's are doing than don't watch the show!Duh! You're the one that sounds ignorant saying "oh I have a cold heart I don't care about anything" when you are making comments about shows that come on TLC which is a channel for people who like families. Change the channel loser because it is obvious that you do care and watch the shows because you took the time to make a comment. Get a life and stop commenting rude things about ohters just because you have nothing else to do you rotten, ignorant, stupid, no good, low down, dirty, idiotic, lunatic!!!!!!!!!!!! Jon and Kate are awesome and way cuter than the Hayes Sextuplets!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DD - you are tooo funny!
Guess what? Nadya only wanted "one more - maybe twins" too - guess what? She had friggin 8!! With already 6! at home that she couldn't afford - That is some fucked up shit!
Please keep in mind there were multiple pregnancies BEFORE fertility treatments. Not all multiples are the result of fertility treatments...so take it easy on parents when you see them.
We got pregnant the first time we tried. Our identical twins were born full-term (standard vaginal delivery) at 6lb 8oz and 6lb 5oz. All three of us left the hospital 36 hours after birth. I was never on bedrest, etc.
Our children have been ahead of every developmental milestone.....
Almost every one is going on and on about how dangerous it is with having multiples and not reducing when these mothers get pregnant with so many children but have you ever thought of looking at it from their point of view. If I was pregnant with high number multiples, I don't think I would be able to choose ANY of my soon to be children and I don't know anyone that would be able to, reason being religion or not.
I do not want to watch the Hayes family because of the way they act towards Rebecca. You see her tossed over someones shoulder or sitting in a high chair. she seems to be an afterthought for everyone and the fact that the one boy has bonded with her makes me think that she is just there and no one really cares - does she go to school for disabled children, any therapy or anything. or is she just there. I also think the dads attitude stinks - i know he is a cop and has that cop mentality but his actions when these kids are small is going to rub off on them - he needs to stop complaing about how much they eat and start feeding them healthy food instead of fast food even the Duggars eat healthier food, although they dont appear to have enough food at a meal please dont give this table for 12 a show as they are a bad influence on other children
I have a son with a severe case of CP, much like Rebecca. He will never walk, talk, or be normal. He is nearly 15. He wears diapers and has a feeding tube. His conception and birth were natural and he was a singleton. He wasn't even a preemie. I just wanted to remind everyone that this can happen to anyone.
Most people that have fertility treatments only get one. Plus, learn to spell their names right. When has anyone ever spelled Rebecca - Rebbeca?
I understand how everyone feels on the issue, but please no name calling and rude comments ( esp. about a seven year old like Mady, seriously folks, shes only 7!) I'm not a fan of IVF but I'm not going to hurl insults at those who do (I'm sure the Hayes do have a lot of guilt to live with). Btw, if your going to leave your tackt in the trash atleast use a name, being anonmously rude is cowardly. I'm not out for a fight, I'm just asking that people remember that these are people, insult jokes are funny just dont push it past the point of funny, k?
Its obvious that most of these people's parents were less than qualified to raise children just by looking at the horrible words they use to describe these people. Brood? Litter? Breeders? What the heck? These words are vulgar, crude, and give someone the idea that these people are dogs and not human beings. How somebody chooses to raise their children is their choice. THEIR CHOICE! These shows provide these children with a whole new world of opportunity and choosing to criticize is not going to do anything remotely close to productive. Are you going to call someone who has a child with Tay Sachs horrible and selfish for having another child risking that same disease or not having an abortion even though death awaits that child in the first 3-5 years of life? Or someone who has triplets naturally and one is developmentally handicapped, are you gonna call them "breeders" for not reducing their "litter"? Betty Hayes was not an INF patient. She was given estrogen supplements. Maybe the doctor who who gave her the treatment is to blame. You can't blame one person for a genetic or developmental disorder and you can't judge the way one chooses to live their life.
That child is a blessing and a miracle. Who in the world are YOU to say that her life is not worth living? Who are you to want to dictate to others how many children a family can or can not have?
and to suggest abortion um sorry MURDER as an alternative to living ???? YIKES we can all see what kind of human being you are right??? You know the kind save the trees but kill the unborn babies????
Dear DD,
I think you are an emotionally inept person with little education and even littler desire to obtain an education concerning the issues surrounding Cerebral Palsy.
I find it completely assinine that you would insinuate that Rebecca Hayes has no life. Just because she may not be able to verbally communicate does not mean that she doesn't think, feel, or respond to human interaction.
As a 24 year old mother and person who has Cerebral Palsy, I can attest to the fact that living a full life with a handicap is not only possible, but can be amazing! Although I wouldn't wish a disability on anyone, it has most certainly made me who I am today. I have a wonderful husband, a beautiful son, and I couldn't ask for more. You and your narcissitic website can chalking it up to "spiritual beliefs" but I know what life can be! How dare you blame these parents for their daughter's disability? You don't know their true circumstances, only what you've seen on TV. As I said before, get an education before you make your so-called opinions to yourself.
I agree there WERE high order multiples but now it is WAY more common. Your chances of having Fraternal twins went from
1 in 90.... to 1 in 35.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Hi! We read you blog a lot and we think you are wrong and STUPID! We hate you SO much you make us sick, yet we love reading your blog. You are SO wrong about Jon and Kate plus Eight. We love them and what their show has, Table for 12, dosn't have. We hate them and wish that they put their show back on tv and take the boring brats (aka the Hayes family)OFF the tv! So if you are going to contune to bag on our favorite shows. Then you will lose 4 readers. What do you think about that? Please tell us. Thanks. BYE!!
you know, this is stupid. stop it about the comments about mady gosselin. She's a great kid just with some emotional issues because of the stress sextuplets have had on her. You cant blame her.
And cerebral palsy is not caused by birth of multiples. You can't blame the Hayes for Rebecca. You should'nt blame anyone for her. Rebecca shouldn't even be part of this stupid conversation.
I have to comment on this because I can't stand reading you guys' bad comments and keeping my mouth shut. So there.
"Oh? Let's ask Rebecca Hayes what she thinks. Oh, wait, she can't answer..and she never will. But, by golly her parents got their litter and a TV show! Thank God for that."
WTF?! I mean, that's really mean and rude. It's not the parents fault! If you really care, go and search online for caases of cerebral palsy. its not just multiples who get it. well, do you care? i doubt it.
i can not belive you would say such ruthless awful things about the hayes and gosslins they are good people and just because rebecca has ceribal palsy does not mean the hayes are bad parents they are doin every thing they can 4 her so leave them the f alone
This conversation is ridiculous, you may not agree with families using fertility drugs to have a child, but if there is no other way then who are you to judge? both the gosselins and the hayes are wonderful parents, just because they had more kids then what is normal does not mean they are bad parents. both families are doing what they have to to provide for there families, and if having a show is giving them the financial needs then good for them, they deserve every penny they are making for letting us watch them live there lives, i know i would never be able to do that.
OK heres the thing, I understand concerns about these children but honestly, this is ridiculous. Ignorance is the word to describe you guys. If you feel so compelled to comment about this, please get your facts straight. If you've been paying attention to the show at all, you will see that the Hayes do everything possible to try and make Rebecca have a normal life by letting her experience as much as possible. How dare you accuse these loving caring parents of leaving her as an after thought. That is completely untrue. Also yes the Hayes do seem to eat unhealthy food a lot but who knows what they eat when the cameras off. My mom was always feeding us unhealthy things when we were little because they were convenient. And I'm only one of three. Imagine having 10 kids. Plus don't be critical because I guarantee you aren't perfect either. Now back to the subject of Rebecca. CP can happen to anyone. It's not just because she's a sextuplet. OK done with that. Imagine your whole life all you've wanted is a child of your own. Now imagine finding out that isn't possible. It is heartbreaking. All your dreams are now out of reach. So you try fertility treatments and they work. Most of the time that experience of not being able to have kids of your own make you a better parent because you don't take that child for granted. I wish the Hayes all the luck with their new show. The Gosselins have gotten to the point where it may be in their best interest to wind down the reality circuit. I feel they have gotten to the point where they need a normal life again. Yes I feel they have gotten spoiled by the riches and fame and no longer demonstrate the same values they used to stand for in the beginning. I really hope this doesn't happen with the Hayes because they are a likeable and nice family. Oh a little aferthought, doesn't it seem contradictory to not let your kids watch TV but let their lives be exploited on TV? Just a thought.
ok let me tell you that when a person goes into fertility treatments THEY ARE TRYING FOR ONE BABY!!!!my parents tried for years on end trying to have children and finally they did:) they had me ......i can thank modern medicine for my life so bitch all of this b.s. youve been throwing out shut the fuck up before you know what you're talking about!
DD,
I really love love love the Hayes family. The parents are so REAL! I have a large family myself. Three natural and 2 adopted children whom I adopted when they were older 7 and 15 so no fertility drugs for us. But just let me say that Betty Hayes is a saint and could be one of my girlfriends. Eric is a doll and really actually loves his kids and not for a buck. Their little girl Rebecca is loved and card of so wonderfully it makes me want to cry. Hope this family is around a long time. Now let me say about the Gosslen family. Oh I better not use their name or they might want to charge you royalties. At first I really like their show, now I just can't believe how MONEY hungrey these people are. Booting off Aunt Jodie cause they don't want to pay her?? Jon only like Cara and Kate is a witch!! Maddie don't get me started on that kid. She is going to need some serious therepy for being the most hated kid on t.v. Do everyone a favor and stop using your kids to make a buck, make up with the beautiful Aunt Jody and get JOBS!!!
The Gosselins have jobs: they take care of 8 kids, while havnig a tv show, appearances, books, interviews, etc. While they're life may not be typical to many of us, it works for them, so don't hate! I love their show and I can't even begin to imagine what its like to have 8 or 10 kids. The stress on the parents must be huge, regardless of how much money or helpers you might have. I think J&K are just doing their best, so lay off people! Also, the comments regarding Mady should stop. She's a kid, and most kids act out. If I could tell you how many times I see kids screaming, throwing tantrums, throwing food, behaving badly--I see it every day and Mady is a typical kid. It's really mean to be so hurtful towards her. And towards the Hayes fam- no one wants a kid with disabilities so its not their fault. But they're doing the best they can with what they have. If you dont like, dont watch!
Regardless of how many kids you have, it is important to just make them feel loved. So if you have 1 or 18, you have to discipline them in love and let your yes mean yes and your no mean no. I understand that may be hard to enforce when you have 7 other kids grabbing at you, yelling, crying, etc. But that is what every parent tries to do- their best. I just happen to stumble across this blog, never read it before, and while I appreciate a persons right to free speech, it was a little harsh. I dont think anyone would like to be referred to as a breeder, or having a litter. Its mean, and like my mother always used to say "if you dont have something nice to say, dont say it at all!" This blogger seems to be someone who is resentful, or just angry about something, and to take it out on the Hayes is rude and mean. If you want to help the Hayes, or little Rebecca, do something more positive. I'm sure some cerebral palsy foundation could use the time you spend blogging for some other activity. Or, donate to the foundation. They always need more money for cures. Just my two cents!
These people are much more of a family then the Gosselins are. I'm sorry, Jon and Kate only want all that money they are getting. The Hayes family is much more "real" to me. On the show, Betty said that even if it had been just Rebecca, who knows she still might be handicapped. Everyone can choose the number of kids they want. At least these people stay together and do more family activities then the Gosselins do. The Gosselins are just self centered and I truely believe that the Hayes want what is best for the kids, unlike the Gosselins.
some people are talking about "quality of life" which in theory is great, but who decides that? Hitler decided that at one point and baked the Jews. Low quality of life is hard to accept but parents feel guilty enough having a child with a disability so why make it worse by implying their child shouldn't be alive?
Okay this will be my first and last comment here.. It amazes me that people with so many negative comments continue to watch these shows that seem to upset them so...People, use that remote and move on.
As for the Hayes, they are not as entertaining as the Gosselins,but I will give them a chance...I certainly won't come here to complain, I'll take my own advice and move on.
gave the show a third chance tonight and i was appalled at what i saw - absolutely no discipline and dad thought it was funny talking about what a babysitter would have to do - what a bunch of brats and how absurb that the parents dont know what is going on -and what kind of a room does rebecca sleep in - it looked like a closet - omg how crude
for one thing talking about a kid like you did maddie is not only wrong its disgusting that a grown person can pick on a little kid like that. I dont know if this person is a parent or but if you are a parent you would know that if a parent can provide and allow your kids to do things that they like to do even if it is a manicure you do it to make your kids happy and i applaud jon and kate for doing that. another thing dont go talk about other peoples uterus worry about your own. I think that IVF gives parents who cant have a child a chance as long as they take care and provide for their kids like the gosselins and hayes families do no matter how many they are then it dosent matter and should be nobody elses problems. no parent is perfect for another thing god gives people obstacles to face in life and it makes people stronger its for a reason even if it is a disabled child i personally know that a disabled child can touch a persons heart dramatically. my nephew is disabled blind, and mentally retarted but you know what it happend for a reason ivf treatments might be someones exscuse to say that people are selfish to do it cuz multiple births a children having higher risk of disabilities but its not true. my sister had a normal pregnancy if that was true then why is my nephew disabled and the sextuplets arent you know why because its life God gives children to parents like that for a reason. Kate Gosselin is a wonderful mother and she is very lucky to have 6 healthy kids and she realized that she says it all the time but one thing is she had a option to have a reduction and she chose not to she gave 6 wonderful kids and wonderful life kids that God chose for her.As far a The Hayes and The Gosselins they both had choices to make about reductions and both chose not to but yeah rebeccas situation is sad but God gave her her mother and father for a choice both familys made choices to have their 6 children no matter if they were going to have disbilites are problems and they made a decision to take care of ALL of their kids and both familys should be a role model to any parents who decide to IVF treatments.
for one thing talking about a kid like you did maddie is not only wrong its disgusting that a grown person can pick on a little kid like that. I dont know if this person is a parent or but if you are a parent you would know that if a parent can provide and allow your kids to do things that they like to do even if it is a manicure you do it to make your kids happy and i applaud jon and kate for doing that. another thing dont go talk about other peoples uterus worry about your own. I think that IVF gives parents who cant have a child a chance as long as they take care and provide for their kids like the gosselins and hayes families do no matter how many they are then it dosent matter and should be nobody elses problems. no parent is perfect for another thing god gives people obstacles to face in life and it makes people stronger its for a reason even if it is a disabled child i personally know that a disabled child can touch a persons heart dramatically. my nephew is disabled blind, and mentally retarted but you know what it happend for a reason ivf treatments might be someones exscuse to say that people are selfish to do it cuz multiple births a children having higher risk of disabilities but its not true. my sister had a normal pregnancy if that was true then why is my nephew disabled and the sextuplets arent you know why because its life God gives children to parents like that for a reason. Kate Gosselin is a wonderful mother and she is very lucky to have 6 healthy kids and she realized that she says it all the time but one thing is she had a option to have a reduction and she chose not to she gave 6 wonderful kids and wonderful life kids that God chose for her.As far a The Hayes and The Gosselins they both had choices to make about reductions and both chose not to but yeah rebeccas situation is sad but God gave her her mother and father for a choice both familys made choices to have their 6 children no matter if they were going to have disbilites are problems and they made a decision to take care of ALL of their kids and both familys should be a role model to any parents who decide to IVF treatments.
If you don't like the shows, don't watch them. If you watched Jon and Kate you would know how rare it is to get 6 kids, some families go through the treatments and never have a child. You must be the most bitter, miserable person in the world. Anyone who sits there all day complaining about other things (YOU) needs to move on and focus on your own life. Maybe then you could be happy. No wonder our economy sucks, idiots like you are sitting here bitching instead of working and being productive. Just pathetic.
It is more than obvious that the people commenting on this blog have never had a problem having children, if they are even parents at all. The yearning for children is so strong that a person will do what ever it takes to get them. I tried for 6 years to have children and finally after 3 attempts at IVF I have beautiful twin girls. I thank God every day for giving the scientists the ability to create such a process.
I completely agree with DD. Not only are these people ignoring the quality of life of their own children, but they're also ignoring the other six billion people they share this planet with. And, to the argument that "they can afford it"? I call bullshit. Are they going to pull from their personal coffers to pay full price for their children to go to college -- do they pay for every piece of clothing and bite of food for their children out of their own paychecks? I highly fucking doubt it.
Lack of personal and social responsibility is what makes these shows unwatchable for me.
Ditto Supernanny.
Who cares how many children the hayes or Gosselins have, as long as they are happy isnt that enough. I think if people cant conceive they should try fertility treatments. I myself found out that I have thyroid problems and PCOS and I don't know yet if I am going to be able to conceive or not. I really want to have children and I have always wanted my own every since I was younger. I know there are children out there to adopt, but why adopt if there are fertility drugs out there that can help and I would like to try at least to have my own child.
U FUCKING BITCH!!!! I know this family personally and they happen to be extremely nice!!! Who the hell do you think you are bashing their family you little asshole!!! I wish you horrible luck for all the shit she's saying. It's not Rebecca's fault she has a condition. Once again FUCK YOU!!!
What a bitch. You must be one of the most uneducated bloggers around. You should be ashamed of the statements that you have made. "Litters" how inappropriate. These are children, who are well taking care of. So, why don't you go bitch at the whores who have 8 and 9 children (with 8 or 9 different fathers) and live on welfare and can't feed their children.
You really must not understand the desire to have a child. If you do have children I feel sorry for them, because you are ignorant.
And to everyone on here who has agreed with DD, I hope that your children grow up and realize how ignorant you are as well.
Seriously, how dumb are you?? Basically saying that Little Rebbecca has Cerebral Palsy due to her "litter". Do you even know what Cerebral Palsy is?? You should really do a little research before you post bull shit. Here is a link to help you understand a little better: http://www.ucp.org/
Your a dumbass.
So "selective reduction" is ok, but not abortion... You women are pieces of work...
The Gosslins may have wanted only one more child, but by allowing seven eggs to be implanted wasn't very smart. They lost one conception, but the six that were born, plus the two they already had, don't leave much time for closeness to each child. I had five children, all single. There was 10 years between two sets, three in the first and two in the later two kids. By the time Billy hit first grade, the two older boys were married and my only daughter was getting ready for college. It doesn't matter how far apart the kids are, or how old they are, they are a handful and keep moms very busy. To curse about these people is unkind and none of our business. No asks me to support them and if their parenting gets on my nerves all I have to do is turn off my TV or change the channel. I pray that each does their very best in raising their children, after all, I didn't get a booklet on raising my children either. It's all a big guess. We won't know for years if we did it right.
How do these people afford the IVF treatments anyways? especially 3 of them?
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