Octo Gramps: “Now I’m no psychiatrist, but I question her mental situation.” Gramps thinks his daughter and her doctor are irresponsible. I think the word he meant to use was totally responsible.*
Then Gramps asked for help. “You know what? She needs help. I say to everybody now ..people.. we do need help,” Ed Doud said. “Do not punish my daughter for what she had done and do not punish the babies, because they were given by God.”
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There you have it. Those children were a gift from God. How about that? It's God that thinks up all this shit. Who are you to question him? I'd say Jesus Fucking Christ! But, somewhere up there the old dude might be aiming a turkey baster at me. God has a weird sense of humor if you ask me.
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if they were a gift from god, why did she have to have IVF? maybe god didn't want her to have any kids and that's why she was infertile?
The Almighty Doctors have more to answer to than she does.......she didn't get laid and knocked up 6 (or 8) more times, which probably would have sapped her enthusiasm for reproducing, ... there were plenty of aiders and abettors who should be held responsible too.
The difference between her and Angelina Jolie is slight. One has money and can cut red tape to adopt, while the other one can't find someone else's husband to help her babysit. But they are both mental and hugely egotistical.
Speaking as a mom who used clomid (multiple cycles) to have my one child, I resent the inference that only unaided pregnancies, and babies are a gift from God. I truly believe that my son is a gift. Without medication, he would never have come into our lives, and that is just too sad to contemplate.
I see this issue raised repeatedly on message boards, but only by those who have the option of conceiving without medical help. It's kind of the new discrimination. The suggestion has been made (previously) that anyone desiring medical help to conceive be subjected to mental/emotional health testing, and review of their family circumstances prior to fertility assistance. Maybe we should require the same thing of anyone of childbearing age. (Prior to any pregnancy.) A little scarey when suggested this way, isn't it? It threatens what is normally assumed to be one of our basic rights.
Rest assured, octomom does not accurately represent the vast majority of women who have difficulty conceiving. Most of us are very normal, but missing one very important thing in our lives.
To those who would suggest adoption, I would say that option might work for some, but not all. Adoptions in this country can be undone if the birth mother has a change of heart or circumstances, and foreign adoptions cost a mint. I know of someone who adopted a young child (not a baby) from a part of the former USSR within the last year, and those costs topped $50,000. It also took a significant amount of vacation/leave time from work for the family to stay in (USSR) until the papers came through. Just not an option for most of us.
Octomom did a bad thing, and she was aided and abetted by family and her doctor. It is a sad thing that we can either give to her children (who are blameless) and know that she will reap the rewards (money, a nice house, fame, etc.) for what she should never have done, or we can choose not to give and wonder how the children will live, and what their quality of live will be.
I guess the best that could come of this is that a closer look will be taken at the IVF industry, and maybe some safeguards will be added to prevent the practice of placing such a large number of babies for implantation.
God? Really? I thought they were a gift from frankenstein science.
I'm so tired of people using G-d to explain away their irresponsibility.
G-d also made Kate Gosselin infertile. Why didn't she accept THAT?
If you help out the natural process to have kids is that helping God out?
a gift from god? they are a product of advanced medical technology. if god held so responsible for everything then he also made these people infertile so why then don't they (infertile people) accept 'his will' rather than use technology to go against it? and then call it a gift from god. talk about a double standard!
4.03 the UN declaration of human rights states that ALL children have the right to knowledge of both their mother and father and a right to live with them and know ALL their genetic ties. it enshrines their right to identity. donor conception denies people conceived in this way of this basic human right. infertile people rob their own offspring of this right by placing their own so called rights (to have a child) ahead of the rights of their own (bought) child/ren. to know their true identity.
"The suggestion has been made (previously) that anyone desiring medical help to conceive be subjected to mental/emotional health testing, and review of their family circumstances prior to fertility assistance. Maybe we should require the same thing of anyone of childbearing age. (Prior to any pregnancy.) A little scarey when suggested this way, isn't it?"
donor conceived people suffer the same identity and loss of kinship tie issues that adopted people do. thats why subjecting people who want to donor conceive, to the same stringent evaluation process as adopting parents, is necessary.
furthermore, if requiring that people undergo testing and procurement of a licence (to breed) will help outlaw donor conception i'm all for it.
anything to put a halt to our wealthy countries burgeoning fertility industry (aka baby trade).
Hell, at this point I think anyone who wants a kid by any means should have a sanity test first.
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