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My mom has breast cancer and both my grandmothers did. I'm thinking about being tested to find out if I have the gene as well. If I do, I am thinking about having these things removed and getting a new set, LOL. Has anyone heard of or know anyone who has done this?
Yes, many women who have breast cancer in their family are opting out by removing both breasts as a preventative. I don't think it's a bad thing. The reconstructive surgeries now are pretty good.
Palmetto Girl, I have patients who have done this prophalactically(sp?) and have felt better about not living under the specter of this disease. They had the removal and reconstruction done all at one time. However if you have a smaller upper body they sometimes have to use tissue expanders which makes the process a long drawn out one. I am sorry that you are in a position that you would even have to make that decision. Good Luck to you.
Thanks Nissa. I called my Mom's oncologist and one of his employees made me feel like the biggest idiot. I called to find out about the genetic testing. When I got through asking everything, she said, "so what will you do if you do have the gene?" I told her that I would choose to have a preventive mastectomy and she said, "for what?" I've read some info on Webmd that I believe indicates this is the best thing to do. It really doesn't bother me to think about it. So many women get breast cancer today, it's almost like a common cold. I'm a medium sized B cup so I would love to be a small C, LOL. My mom had her removal and implants done all on the same day so that does seem like the best thing to do.
DD - You would think insuance companies would pay for a reduction. I mean, they will probably save money eventually, especially if you have back problems and are constantly going to the doctor because of it.
Palmetto Girl, Just know that having the gene does not automatically mean you will get the disease. Something + the gene triggers the growth of cancerous cells. However they do not know what that something is so I would probably have the mastectomy. Pat, Once you get everything figured out you might try to see a surgeon about your bewbies, most insurances will pay for reductions if there is significant back problems and lung issues
I was hoping for a reduction this year, but it looks like it'll be put off for another year. I'm little and my tig ol bitties look man made. They're way too heavy for my back to carry. Our ins is going to pay for most of it because of my back issues. Palmetto Girl, Christina Applegate has the gene, and she had the surgery. She was on oprah right after the surgery. She had to have the expanders put in because she was little. She said that she alread loved it, it felt great, and that she was looking forward to having "perky ones" and not ever wearing a bra again. Sounds like heaven to me.
Palmetto Girl---Don't let the idiot get you down. Plenty of people who work in doctors' offices are idiots who pretend to know something because they have been given responsibility with little guidance. They get away with giving bad advice, leading people astray because they don't have the depth of knowledge required to give a good, balanced response. I do know someone whose mother had breast cancer, and she lost a younger sister to it as well. She is a master's level nurse, and went through all the varied testing, and found out she carries the gene. She had the prophylactic mastectomies, and the tissue-expander surgery as well as the reconstructions done separately. It was uncomfortable, and took time, but now she knows that she will not have to worry. Only you know if you are ready to have this done. If so, good luck, and I hope they can do it all at once. Pat, it's worth checking into, if they might do a reduction due to back issues. If insurance will pay for it, that is.
Wow. Cut---that does sound good. I always wanted bigger boobs, but about three or so months into pregnancy the DD-cup fairy visited me. Ow. Yikes. Replacing these with a new set that would be forever perky, and never having to wear a bra again sound heavenly.
Yep, Cut. I've put my whole pic on here, so ppl know..I'm mostly boobs. It's just painful. I don't know why any girl would do that to themselves deliberatly.
The breathing is the worst. When gravity wins, you can not find a way to lay at night that they don't interfear with your breathing. Sometimes I hold them up just to take a deep breath. It's so annoying.
Oh im with dd. I would love to get a reduction to a B also. Ive had d's for the longest time. Than when I had my daughter they went to double d's. I know they are going to get bigger again. Thanks pregnacy. ( ya right) body chemistry can be so cruel. I dont want to have big boobs the rest of my life. I want to run, swim without people staring, etc.. I also dont want to be 50 years old with boobs down to my knees. I would take my sister in laws little A boobies any day. Oh how great it would be to run around with no freakin bra chest barcade.
Palmetto. I would get tested. Its better to know than later on.
I have written several times about my FIL and his fight with cancer. It's hard to know how to really feel about this, because he fought so long and hard, and we said good-bye so many times, but. . . he passed yesterday afternoon. Of course there is sadness, but also relief that he is no longer suffering, and is now at peace. Thanks for the kind words that were offered along the way.
My grandmother had it and they messed up her replacement titty. It sits on top of the muscle instead of naturally. Now she has one boob perkier than mine and one 76 y/o boob. If you have anything done, do both of them, not just 1 so they will look even. I might get tested one of these days. I would love to try a different shape (I would like full round Bs).
I had a friend in HS that had huge ones (at least DD if not bigger). She had issues with her back and we where only 17. The insurance gave her a big fight to have it done. I don't really understand that because if she has issues at 17 just imagine what her back would be like at 25 or even 35? I'm pretty sure she eventually convinced them to do it.
Christina, I am so sorry. I lost my beloved FIL last Summer and I know how hard it is. Your FIL sounded like a fine gentle man and he is much loved, he will be missed. No doubt. May he rest in peace. My thoughts are with your family.
Thanks for the encouragement everyone. Some people freak when you bring the subject up, wondering why you would choose to do something like that, but they're just boobs!! I would rather be proactive about the situation, than in the back of mind constantly wonder if I'm going to get it.
I would totally love having bigger boobs and actually had planned on it. When I went in for my pre-admission testing I found out I was pregnant and Ralphie was here 9 months later. I still fully intend to have them done next year after I graduate. I literally only want a B. I cannot even fill a training bra LOL
Kinda off subject, but I had a cracked moalr extracted today! I have hung onto it for 2 extra years because I cannot afford the bridge I will need. But I feel like it was causing my meneirres to be worse. Maybe it wasn't but it was directly under my bad ear. Ad it was cracked vertically, so they couldnt save it. Don't crunch your ice gals! Me & my cousin both did this same thing to the same molar. Bridges are almost $3G. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. My dental ins will only pay $1G of it. Thats not much help. I may look into a low-cost denture office. Where all they do is stuff like that. My dentist may not like it but he costs too much and I want my tooh back! That sucker was huge too, it took him 3 needles to numb me enough, huge nasty thing. Yuck. Asked me if I wanted it to take home! Hahaha! No! Yuck. Sorry, to change the subject but I just got back to work from having it pulled. Tonight I will sleep good on Vicodons! LOL rox
I'm sorry to hear about your loss Christina. I am sending you healing thoughts and hugs. I know this is hard and it sucks. Thanks for being supportive of me too. It means a lot.
Palmetto Girl...I had the big bc before I was 40 and so had not even had a mammogram yet. Felt a big lump under my arm and apparently the lump, itself, was a lymph node that was just huge with cancer from somewhere else.
They had to remove the breast and then I had a trans-flap procedure where they take, you know, fat from somewhere else on your body...and skin...I had the abdominal one...and they fashioned a breast for me out of my own tissue. This was in 1994.
Nobody in my family had bc and so I didn't even think about having the other one taken off at the same time. Maybe I was too freaked out to even consider it and no doctor mentioned the possibility to me. But I"ll tell you this. I am scared to death before each and every yearly mammogram. My life revolves around that time of the year. And I might've been better off had I just let them take off both breasts and then reconstruct both at that time.
It doesn't seem to be a bad thing to do and the new breast is just like my existing breast. They look just alike.
The mastectomy itself is not painful. But the reconstruction involves a whole lot of nerve reconnection, etc., and a lot of draining tubes and all that stuff. Just some things to consider.
Also, Palmetto Girl and DD, just wanted to mention that while I was getting the trans-flap procedure for the breast that they took off, I had a reduction on the other side. I begged them for a size B because the Ds and DDs I had were killing me. Nobody listened to me, however, and now I have size Ds. I'll tell you this. If I had it to do over again I would make the doc put in writing in a contract that I would be reduced to the size I indicated, not what suited his/her fancy. And this was a super-reputable guy in the DC area.
Oh, you guys, wouldn't you just love to be able to wear those little almost nonexistant lacy bras or -- sigh -- maybe sometimes no bra at all? It would be heaven.
Rox, Do you have a dental school close to you? I am in close proximity to one and they do all kinds of work for reduced fees. You might want to look into it.
DD, I also had a hysterectomy. Bad endometriosis and cramping problems, etc., and had to beg a doc to do that procedure because I was completely sick of all the pain and mess. It WAS A NIGHTMARE! I still have my ovaries. My doc said because of all the endometriosis and stuff it was worse than most and it did take many, many hours to complete, but it was very, very painful. That is for sure.
Has anyone else had a hysterectomy that was not painful?? I'd love to hear about that.
Barbara in VA- They planned on doing the trans-flap procedure on my Mom, but she didn't have enough fat. I'm smaller than her so I would assume that wouldn't work for me either.
My mom had to have a lymph node removed on one side and she's still in pain from it. She had the surgery almost three weeks ago now. They removed the tubes last week.
I hope that you never have to go through it again.
Thanks for the idea Palmetto Girl. I will check into that. And you do what your heart tells you to do about your breasts. They are yours, you can do w/e you choose. If you have kids and want to be sure not to be sick while you raise them, then just do it. Better safe than sorry too late. Have the gene test, then decide. You have to do that at least. You are too important not to. Love you. rox
i never heard of a non painful hysterectomy!! i had one 6 1/2 years ago....spent a week in the hospital cuz i had huge honkin' fibroid---19" x 5" and 9 pounds!! they took everything.....i said 'take it all' ....even if hadn't said that, they would have had to take it anyway....
the worse was coughing....i have a huge honkin's incision up to the top of my rib cage and it aches whenever we're gonna get a storm! actually like pulls! :)
Yeah, Tia, I believe you. It was roooooooooough. Everytime I puked (often) or coughed my stitches or staples would blow out. I was so sick, I didn't think I'm make it. The surgeon finally resorted to super gluing this thing up my front that looked like shoe lace holes on each side. Packing the gaping hole with gauze, cleaning it out with steril solution and yanking the ties back up is how I coped for 6 months. A year later it finally healed. Can't hardly see it now. Man. It was bad.
@Christina--Best wishes to you and your family. So sorry for your loss, I know it was a long process. Good luck with MIL.
My nine year old bulldog died peacefully in his sleep yesterday evening. So sad. But he spent the day with all the people he loved, begged food and laid in the sun all day. Couldn't ask for a more perfect day. It just guts you when you lose a pet.
I can't wait to kiss 2009 goodbye. Wish I had a cute guy to kiss at midnight and martinis to comfort me on NYE.
Sprite, all my sympathy on the loss of your precious dog. Only 9 years old? Is it bad to say I'm glad he died in his sleep? I'm not trying to be insensitive, but as I have an almost 17-year-old carolina dog who holds our family's heart in her hands, I am most fearful of her suffering at all.
You have suffered a terrible loss. Try to think of him as running with the big dogs now, barking and jumping and licking anything he wants, feeling like a pup again. At least that's what I hope I can do when the time comes.
Christina and Sprite: Sending big hugs to both of you.
Barbara: I also have endometriosis and know exactly what you are talking about. The pain can really be a nightmare. Did your surgery help decrease the pain?
As far as boobs go, I am a small D. They don't bother me at this point but I know that a few years down the line, especially if I have children, I will be ready to switch them out for a smaller pair. My grandmother recently had hers removed due to breast cancer so in the future I could very well be thinking along the same lines as you, Palmetto Girl.
oh sprite im so sorry for the loss.. Big hugs sweetie..
Heidi oh gezz.. I feel so bad for your daughter. I know when I was growing up what people use to do to me. Just because one summer this tom boy grew a great big boobs overnight. I hated them that I binded them. I didnt change infront of other girls and sports say goodbye. Cheerleading was fun to. It wasnt till my 10 grade year I did start wearing a bra. not 2 sports bras. I always hated the assumption if you have big tits that means your a slut.
Sprite, so sorry for your loss! We, my husband and I, lost our 13 year old cocker spaniel to congestive heart failure on the 1st of November. Piper also had mild epilepsy, she had her last seizure surrounded by me, my husband and mom and it would be the last breath she took. It was rough to be present, a first for me, but I wouldn't have had it any other way! My husband is still devestated and we are both ready to say goodbye to 2009! I kiss my other dogs every single day cuz you just never know how long they will be with us! big hugs! bima 000xx0oo P.S. DD, HOW ARE YOU FEELING?? HOW IS YOUR NOGGIN?
I feel pretty puny, to tell the truth, but, I'll find out more soon. I see the doc in the morning and the neuro dude in Feb. I think I need some plain old antibiotics. Geesh, I can't believe I don't have any in my stash. lol.
Christina and Sprite, I am truly sorry for your losses. It hurts no matter what time of year but it's even worse around the holidays. My beloved aunt died 2 years ago yesterday. My heart goes out to you guys.
DD, I am glad you're going to see the dr. I'm worried about you. Lung issues are nothing to mess with.
Tanks, I will always update you. Really, I feel okay, but, I do have a bad flu of some sort. My headaches are more frequent now, but, no more pain in my chest or left side. I'm glad to kow it's not my heart. If I had to choose brain surgery or heart..I'd pick brain. I think you'd heal faster.
Christina, please accept my condolences on the loss of your FIL.
Sprite, I'm so sorry for the loss of your pooch. I lost my 14 year old Lab a year and a half ago and I still cry whenever I think of him.
Here is some more information on the blue moon for anyone interested. We won't see another New Years Eve blue moon for another 19 years. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/blue-moon-new-years-eve-2_n_406295.html
Thanks to everyone for the kind wishes and support. I really do appreciate it. My relationship with my FIL was complicated. What I really loved about him was his love of my husband and our son. To Nagypapa, our Andy was without flaw. If Andy wanted to play video games when he went to visit Nagypapa, then Nagypapa was happy to just sit and watch him play, though he couldn't hear what was going on, and couldn't see the game, even with his glasses. There were times when he was a little hard on me, but on the fifteenth, he was in a hospice bed, barely living, and yet he awoke, held my hand, told me he was sorry, and cried while apologizing. One of the saddest things I've ever seen. When we told the staff about this, they told us it was a gift, and that most people never see this. It was the last time we ever saw him conscious. Sprite, I am so sorry for the loss of your sweet doggie. Our pets give us unconditional love, and their lives are just too short. I do believe in the Rainbow Bridge, too, as what kind of heaven would it be without the ones who loved us so much, be they on two legs, or four?
Thanks to all who sent me good wishes on the loss of my Guapo. I am glad he died peacefully in his sleep, glad I could see him peaceful. 9 was old for his breed-a bulldog-plus he had some chronic medical issues. I know he is fine and I am grateful for the way he went. We were really lucky to have him spend the whole day with us, feeling good, begging food, sunbathing...that is a comfort and such a relief to have his last day be so perfect. Thanks for letting me post about it, everyone here understands "furbaby" loss. That is so comforting to me, when people get it. I'm okay.
Dr Seuss said, "Don't cry because it over, smile because it happened."
PS-DD, I am preparing a presentation on stroke/TIA for women for one of my women's civic groups. I can send it to you, powerpoint slides and a PSA announcement. Women experience stroke differently. I am doing the presentation mid-January, so I don't have it yet...but wondered if you would want it posted for your readers. I chose the topic because of you, so women can detect early signs. Just a thought.
Yeah, Mich, the hysterectomy stopped all the endometriotic pain in that there was no endometrium anymore to spread out of the uterus and into other abdominal parts and then suffer the ripping off once a month or so. It truly felt like my insides were being ripped out for days and at least one doc told me that she suffered the very same thing and it was as if your "inside skin" was being removed. And that's how it felt.
It was a decision I had to make because my life revolved around this pain and I had about one pain free week a month, and that was spent worrying about when the pain would start.
My poor neighbor has this disease where the endometriosis actually grows outside her torso every month and up into her chest and arms (can you imagine?). Every month she has to go to the hospital for heavy-duty pain relief.
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My mom has breast cancer and both my grandmothers did. I'm thinking about being tested to find out if I have the gene as well.
If I do, I am thinking about having these things removed and getting a new set, LOL.
Has anyone heard of or know anyone who has done this?
~Palmetto Girl
Yes, many women who have breast cancer in their family are opting out by removing both breasts as a preventative. I don't think it's a bad thing. The reconstructive surgeries now are pretty good.
Palmetto Girl,
I have patients who have done this prophalactically(sp?) and have felt better about not living under the specter of this disease. They had the removal and reconstruction done all at one time. However if you have a smaller upper body they sometimes have to use tissue expanders which makes the process a long drawn out one. I am sorry that you are in a position that you would even have to make that decision. Good Luck to you.
I'd like to have a reduction, I'm sure it would help my back and lungs. Damn the cost.
Thanks Nissa. I called my Mom's oncologist and one of his employees made me feel like the biggest idiot.
I called to find out about the genetic testing. When I got through asking everything, she said, "so what will you do if you do have the gene?" I told her that I would choose to have a preventive mastectomy and she said, "for what?"
I've read some info on Webmd that I believe indicates this is the best thing to do.
It really doesn't bother me to think about it. So many women get breast cancer today, it's almost like a common cold. I'm a medium sized B cup so I would love to be a small C, LOL.
My mom had her removal and implants done all on the same day so that does seem like the best thing to do.
~Palmetto Girl
DD - You would think insuance companies would pay for a reduction. I mean, they will probably save money eventually, especially if you have back problems and are constantly going to the doctor because of it.
~Palmetto Girl
Palmetto Girl, I wish you luck and keep us informed. I wish I was B cup though.
That employee is an idiot.
Palmetto Girl,
Just know that having the gene does not automatically mean you will get the disease. Something + the gene triggers the growth of cancerous cells. However they do not know what that something is so I would probably have the mastectomy.
Pat,
Once you get everything figured out you might try to see a surgeon about your bewbies, most insurances will pay for reductions if there is significant back problems and lung issues
My mom and my dad both had breast cancer.
I don't want to know if I have the gene. I assume I do.
I had a reduction but now I seem to get more lumps, cysts than when I was huge. Oh, and I was huge.
Was the reduction a rough surgery?
Yes, it was very rough.
A few days after the surgery I was in a Vicadin haze and I called the nurse crying that he took ALL MY BOOBS OFF!!!
I'm now a small C.
I was hoping for a reduction this year, but it looks like it'll be put off for another year. I'm little and my tig ol bitties look man made. They're way too heavy for my back to carry. Our ins is going to pay for most of it because of my back issues.
Palmetto Girl, Christina Applegate has the gene, and she had the surgery. She was on oprah right after the surgery. She had to have the expanders put in because she was little. She said that she alread loved it, it felt great, and that she was looking forward to having "perky ones" and not ever wearing a bra again. Sounds like heaven to me.
Palmetto Girl---Don't let the idiot get you down. Plenty of people who work in doctors' offices are idiots who pretend to know something because they have been given responsibility with little guidance.
They get away with giving bad advice, leading people astray because they don't have the depth of knowledge required to give a good, balanced response.
I do know someone whose mother had breast cancer, and she lost a younger sister to it as well. She is a master's level nurse, and went through all the varied testing, and found out she carries the gene. She had the prophylactic mastectomies, and the tissue-expander surgery as well as the reconstructions done separately. It was uncomfortable, and took time, but now she knows that she will not have to worry. Only you know if you are ready to have this done. If so, good luck, and I hope they can do it all at once.
Pat, it's worth checking into, if they might do a reduction due to back issues. If insurance will pay for it, that is.
Wow. Cut---that does sound good. I always wanted bigger boobs, but about three or so months into pregnancy the DD-cup fairy visited me. Ow. Yikes.
Replacing these with a new set that would be forever perky, and never having to wear a bra again sound heavenly.
Yep, Cut. I've put my whole pic on here, so ppl know..I'm mostly boobs. It's just painful. I don't know why any girl would do that to themselves deliberatly.
The breathing is the worst. When gravity wins, you can not find a way to lay at night that they don't interfear with your breathing. Sometimes I hold them up just to take a deep breath. It's so annoying.
Oh im with dd. I would love to get a reduction to a B also. Ive had d's for the longest time. Than when I had my daughter they went to double d's. I know they are going to get bigger again. Thanks pregnacy. ( ya right) body chemistry can be so cruel. I dont want to have big boobs the rest of my life. I want to run, swim without people staring, etc.. I also dont want to be 50 years old with boobs down to my knees. I would take my sister in laws little A boobies any day. Oh how great it would be to run around with no freakin bra chest barcade.
Palmetto. I would get tested. Its better to know than later on.
I have written several times about my FIL and his fight with cancer.
It's hard to know how to really feel about this, because he fought so long and hard, and we said good-bye so many times, but. . . he passed yesterday afternoon. Of course there is sadness, but also relief that he is no longer suffering, and is now at peace.
Thanks for the kind words that were offered along the way.
My grandmother had it and they messed up her replacement titty. It sits on top of the muscle instead of naturally. Now she has one boob perkier than mine and one 76 y/o boob. If you have anything done, do both of them, not just 1 so they will look even. I might get tested one of these days. I would love to try a different shape (I would like full round Bs).
I had a friend in HS that had huge ones (at least DD if not bigger). She had issues with her back and we where only 17. The insurance gave her a big fight to have it done. I don't really understand that because if she has issues at 17 just imagine what her back would be like at 25 or even 35? I'm pretty sure she eventually convinced them to do it.
Christina, I am so sorry. I lost my beloved FIL last Summer and I know how hard it is. Your FIL sounded like a fine gentle man and he is much loved, he will be missed. No doubt. May he rest in peace. My thoughts are with your family.
Thanks for the encouragement everyone.
Some people freak when you bring the subject up, wondering why you would choose to do something like that, but they're just boobs!! I would rather be proactive about the situation, than in the back of mind constantly wonder if I'm going to get it.
~Palmetto Girl
{{{{ hugs }}}} to you, Christine.
Christina,
I am sorry for your loss. You will be in my thoughts
I would totally love having bigger boobs and actually had planned on it. When I went in for my pre-admission testing I found out I was pregnant and Ralphie was here 9 months later. I still fully intend to have them done next year after I graduate. I literally only want a B. I cannot even fill a training bra LOL
I'm so sorry for your loss Christina.
~Palmetto Girl
im so sorry christina. Big hug.
Poli being a jumping fool....
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I am sorry for your loss Christina. :hugs:
I agree with everyone else Palmetto Girl....get tested and if you have it, be proactive....
Kinda off subject, but I had a cracked moalr extracted today! I have hung onto it for 2 extra years because I cannot afford the bridge I will need. But I feel like it was causing my meneirres to be worse. Maybe it wasn't but it was directly under my bad ear. Ad it was cracked vertically, so they couldnt save it. Don't crunch your ice gals! Me & my cousin both did this same thing to the same molar. Bridges are almost $3G. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. My dental ins will only pay $1G of it. Thats not much help. I may look into a low-cost denture office. Where all they do is stuff like that. My dentist may not like it but he costs too much and I want my tooh back! That sucker was huge too, it took him 3 needles to numb me enough, huge nasty thing. Yuck. Asked me if I wanted it to take home! Hahaha! No! Yuck. Sorry, to change the subject but I just got back to work from having it pulled. Tonight I will sleep good on Vicodons! LOL
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I'm sorry to hear about your loss Christina. I am sending you healing thoughts and hugs. I know this is hard and it sucks. Thanks for being supportive of me too. It means a lot.
Palmetto Girl...I had the big bc before I was 40 and so had not even had a mammogram yet. Felt a big lump under my arm and apparently the lump, itself, was a lymph node that was just huge with cancer from somewhere else.
They had to remove the breast and then I had a trans-flap procedure where they take, you know, fat from somewhere else on your body...and skin...I had the abdominal one...and they fashioned a breast for me out of my own tissue. This was in 1994.
Nobody in my family had bc and so I didn't even think about having the other one taken off at the same time. Maybe I was too freaked out to even consider it and no doctor mentioned the possibility to me. But I"ll tell you this. I am scared to death before each and every yearly mammogram. My life revolves around that time of the year. And I might've been better off had I just let them take off both breasts and then reconstruct both at that time.
It doesn't seem to be a bad thing to do and the new breast is just like my existing breast. They look just alike.
The mastectomy itself is not painful. But the reconstruction involves a whole lot of nerve reconnection, etc., and a lot of draining tubes and all that stuff. Just some things to consider.
Thanks Barbara, it's good to hear from someone who's had the surgery.
I've never had breast surgery, but, I had a hysterectomy that everyone said was no biggie. Guess what? It was a biggie.
Also, Palmetto Girl and DD, just wanted to mention that while I was getting the trans-flap procedure for the breast that they took off, I had a reduction on the other side. I begged them for a size B because the Ds and DDs I had were killing me. Nobody listened to me, however, and now I have size Ds. I'll tell you this. If I had it to do over again I would make the doc put in writing in a contract that I would be reduced to the size I indicated, not what suited his/her fancy. And this was a super-reputable guy in the DC area.
Oh, you guys, wouldn't you just love to be able to wear those little almost nonexistant lacy bras or -- sigh -- maybe sometimes no bra at all? It would be heaven.
Rox,
Do you have a dental school close to you? I am in close proximity to one and they do all kinds of work for reduced fees. You might want to look into it.
~Palmetto Girl
DD, I also had a hysterectomy. Bad endometriosis and cramping problems, etc., and had to beg a doc to do that procedure because I was completely sick of all the pain and mess. It WAS A NIGHTMARE! I still have my ovaries. My doc said because of all the endometriosis and stuff it was worse than most and it did take many, many hours to complete, but it was very, very painful. That is for sure.
Has anyone else had a hysterectomy that was not painful?? I'd love to hear about that.
Barbara in VA-
They planned on doing the trans-flap procedure on my Mom, but she didn't have enough fat. I'm smaller than her so I would assume that wouldn't work for me either.
My mom had to have a lymph node removed on one side and she's still in pain from it. She had the surgery almost three weeks ago now. They removed the tubes last week.
I hope that you never have to go through it again.
~Palmetto Girl
Barbara, they took everything on me..a vertical cut, organs in the wrong places..oh, it was so bad. Took a year just to have the incision heal up.
Thanks for the idea Palmetto Girl. I will check into that. And you do what your heart tells you to do about your breasts. They are yours, you can do w/e you choose. If you have kids and want to be sure not to be sick while you raise them, then just do it. Better safe than sorry too late. Have the gene test, then decide. You have to do that at least. You are too important not to. Love you.
rox
i never heard of a non painful hysterectomy!! i had one 6 1/2 years ago....spent a week in the hospital cuz i had huge honkin' fibroid---19" x 5" and 9 pounds!! they took everything.....i said 'take it all' ....even if hadn't said that, they would have had to take it anyway....
the worse was coughing....i have a huge honkin's incision up to the top of my rib cage and it aches whenever we're gonna get a storm! actually like pulls! :)
38F :-\ .No fun when you're trying to find a bathing suit.
Wow Valle, probably not. I cannot even fathom boobs that big. I feel for you. I wish you could donate some of those to me
Yeah, Tia, I believe you. It was roooooooooough. Everytime I puked (often) or coughed my stitches or staples would blow out. I was so sick, I didn't think I'm make it. The surgeon finally resorted to super gluing this thing up my front that looked like shoe lace holes on each side. Packing the gaping hole with gauze, cleaning it out with steril solution and yanking the ties back up is how I coped for 6 months. A year later it finally healed. Can't hardly see it now. Man. It was bad.
Valle, I hear ya. Nothing fits me either.
Just waiting to see what Crabbie has to say about this boobie thread.
Yes, not wearing a bra and being perky is AWESOME!!
i got my staples out in like 2 weeks....still see the staple scars though...looks like you could lace up my stomach!!!
my incision healed pretty well....i was 'blah' for a good 6 weeks though and it took a few months before i felt 'good'....
@Christina--Best wishes to you and your family. So sorry for your loss, I know it was a long process. Good luck with MIL.
My nine year old bulldog died peacefully in his sleep yesterday evening. So sad. But he spent the day with all the people he loved, begged food and laid in the sun all day. Couldn't ask for a more perfect day. It just guts you when you lose a pet.
I can't wait to kiss 2009 goodbye. Wish I had a cute guy to kiss at midnight and martinis to comfort me on NYE.
Sprite
Snark, crabbie likes boobies. His secret crush is Maggie Gyllenhaul. When she breastfeeds that kid of hers, he gets all goofy for a week.
Christina, I am sorry for your
Loss. ((Hugs)) to you and your
Family.
Sprite, I am sorry about your dog. Awwww.
sprite, so sorry for your loss...
Sprite I am so sorry for your loss
Sprite, all my sympathy on the loss of your precious dog. Only 9 years old? Is it bad to say I'm glad he died in his sleep? I'm not trying to be insensitive, but as I have an almost 17-year-old carolina dog who holds our family's heart in her hands, I am most fearful of her suffering at all.
You have suffered a terrible loss. Try to think of him as running with the big dogs now, barking and jumping and licking anything he wants, feeling like a pup again. At least that's what I hope I can do when the time comes.
{{{{{{big hug}}}}}}
Spirit, I am sorry for the loss of your dear dog. Our Pets are family, you know?
My youngest is going to need the breast reduction surgery. She is 16 and poor child is a DDD. I feel for her.
How you feeling Pat?
Back hurts less today but still hurts like hell. I will find out (hopefully) tomorrow if I messed it up or if the pain is normal healing.
Oh..Dont forget everyone...Blue Moon on New Years Eve. I am going to make a wish on that Moon!
Yep, the blue moon does fall on new years eve this year. Thanks.
Christina and Sprite: Sending big hugs to both of you.
Barbara: I also have endometriosis and know exactly what you are talking about. The pain can really be a nightmare. Did your surgery help decrease the pain?
As far as boobs go, I am a small D. They don't bother me at this point but I know that a few years down the line, especially if I have children, I will be ready to switch them out for a smaller pair. My grandmother recently had hers removed due to breast cancer so in the future I could very well be thinking along the same lines as you, Palmetto Girl.
oh sprite im so sorry for the loss.. Big hugs sweetie..
Heidi oh gezz.. I feel so bad for your daughter. I know when I was growing up what people use to do to me. Just because one summer this tom boy grew a great big boobs overnight. I hated them that I binded them. I didnt change infront of other girls and sports say goodbye. Cheerleading was fun to. It wasnt till my 10 grade year I did start wearing a bra. not 2 sports bras. I always hated the assumption if you have big tits that means your a slut.
I hope that my daughter doesn't get big boobs.
Pat, How often is there a "blue moon"? I can't recall the last one. Guess I need to visit Google...
Viki, there are 13 "moons" a year. In the month that has an extra one, the second moon is known as the Blue Moon. It varies from year to year.
Sprite, I am so very sorry to hear about the loss of your furbaby. It is a very hard thing to go through. He is happy at the Rainbow bridge noe. hugs.
Sprite, so sorry for your loss! We, my husband and I, lost our 13 year old cocker spaniel to congestive heart failure on the 1st of November. Piper also had mild epilepsy, she had her last seizure surrounded by me, my husband and mom and it would be the last breath she took. It was rough to be present, a first for me, but I wouldn't have had it any other way!
My husband is still devestated and we are both ready to say goodbye to 2009!
I kiss my other dogs every single day cuz you just never know how long they will be with us! big hugs!
bima
000xx0oo
P.S. DD, HOW ARE YOU FEELING?? HOW IS YOUR NOGGIN?
I feel pretty puny, to tell the truth, but, I'll find out more soon. I see the doc in the morning and the neuro dude in Feb. I think I need some plain old antibiotics. Geesh, I can't believe I don't have any in my stash. lol.
Christina and Sprite, I am truly sorry for your losses. It hurts no matter what time of year but it's even worse around the holidays. My beloved aunt died 2 years ago yesterday. My heart goes out to you guys.
DD, I am glad you're going to see the dr. I'm worried about you. Lung issues are nothing to mess with.
Count me among those who are happy you are seeing a doctor tomorrow. Please keep us updated. Will be thinking about you.
Tanks, I will always update you. Really, I feel okay, but, I do have a bad flu of some sort. My headaches are more frequent now, but, no more pain in my chest or left side. I'm glad to kow it's not my heart. If I had to choose brain surgery or heart..I'd pick brain. I think you'd heal faster.
Season 1 of True Blood is being re-played the next 4 nights on HBO. 3 episodes per night
make sure you mention your headaches to the dr. tomorrow!
Christina,
I'm very sorry about your FIL. It sounds like your were very close to him. Think of the good times. That's been helping me.
I hope you're doing okay Bayou. Hugs.
Christina, please accept my condolences on the loss of your FIL.
Sprite, I'm so sorry for the loss of your pooch. I lost my 14 year old Lab a year and a half ago and I still cry whenever I think of him.
Here is some more information on the blue moon for anyone interested. We won't see another New Years Eve blue moon for another 19 years.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/29/blue-moon-new-years-eve-2_n_406295.html
Thanks to everyone for the kind wishes and support. I really do appreciate it.
My relationship with my FIL was complicated. What I really loved about him was his love of my husband and our son. To Nagypapa, our Andy was without flaw. If Andy wanted to play video games when he went to visit Nagypapa, then Nagypapa was happy to just sit and watch him play, though he couldn't hear what was going on, and couldn't see the game, even with his glasses. There were times when he was a little hard on me, but on the fifteenth, he was in a hospice bed, barely living, and yet he awoke, held my hand, told me he was sorry, and cried while apologizing. One of the saddest things I've ever seen. When we told the staff about this, they told us it was a gift, and that most people never see this. It was the last time we ever saw him conscious.
Sprite, I am so sorry for the loss of your sweet doggie. Our pets give us unconditional love, and their lives are just too short. I do believe in the Rainbow Bridge, too, as what kind of heaven would it be without the ones who loved us so much, be they on two legs, or four?
Thanks to all who sent me good wishes on the loss of my Guapo. I am glad he died peacefully in his sleep, glad I could see him peaceful. 9 was old for his breed-a bulldog-plus he had some chronic medical issues. I know he is fine and I am grateful for the way he went. We were really lucky to have him spend the whole day with us, feeling good, begging food, sunbathing...that is a comfort and such a relief to have his last day be so perfect. Thanks for letting me post about it, everyone here understands "furbaby" loss. That is so comforting to me, when people get it. I'm okay.
Dr Seuss said, "Don't cry because it over, smile because it happened."
PS-DD, I am preparing a presentation on stroke/TIA for women for one of my women's civic groups. I can send it to you, powerpoint slides and a PSA announcement. Women experience stroke differently. I am doing the presentation mid-January, so I don't have it yet...but wondered if you would want it posted for your readers. I chose the topic because of you, so women can detect early signs. Just a thought.
Sprite
Yeah, Mich, the hysterectomy stopped all the endometriotic pain in that there was no endometrium anymore to spread out of the uterus and into other abdominal parts and then suffer the ripping off once a month or so. It truly felt like my insides were being ripped out for days and at least one doc told me that she suffered the very same thing and it was as if your "inside skin" was being removed. And that's how it felt.
It was a decision I had to make because my life revolved around this pain and I had about one pain free week a month, and that was spent worrying about when the pain would start.
My poor neighbor has this disease where the endometriosis actually grows outside her torso every month and up into her chest and arms (can you imagine?). Every month she has to go to the hospital for heavy-duty pain relief.
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