HERE is yet another article criticizing Sienna Miller in the worst way for giving away her huge Newfoundland dog because she thought it was dangerous around her young daughter. That doesn't necessarily mean the dog was vicious, just that is was too big to play with the kid. (I don't know that, I am just giving an example. Maybe it was mean,) How dare anyone critizise someone for protecting their human child! When she got the dog as a pup, she knew it would get big, but, she didn't have a child then. How could she have forseen all the problems? HOW FUCKING DARE anyone for slamming her when she found a suitable place for the dog to go, where it got a loving home with plenty of space for it to roam? Sometimes NO amount of training can cure a dog of it's problems. I am a big time animal lover, there is not much I won't do for animals. My own animals are family and spoiled rotten, but, if any of them proved to be a threat to any of my three small grand kids, guess what? They'd be gone. And if I couldn't find a proper place for them, I'd end them. I'd be sick about it for awhile, but, children come first. People need to walk a mile in other people's shoes and stop being idiots about animals. Not all animals are nice. There ARE mentally ill, violent animals and I know that from experience. They either need to go live in a junkyard or die. Shut the fuck up. Animals are family, but, they are NOT your children. Children are your children. Jesus Christ. I want animal laws changed and all animals to be treated right too, I want animal abusers punished harshly, and I would work for any cause that saves needy animals, but, I refuse to be insane about it. YOU try losing one of your children and then come tell me your dog is just as important. It's not and I hope you never have that happen to you. But, please get a clue. This woman did what she thought best to protect her child. Look at that tiny little girl, can you blame her, really? It is our job to protect animals, but, it is our main job to protect our innocent children. They can't do it themselves. People who have harsh words for her personal choice should be ashamed of themselves. The dog is probably happier too.
This does not excuse superficial idiots like Kim Kardashian who got a kitten to be fashionable and then when she got bored of it being an accessory, let it die. Those people need prison time and to never be allowed to own any animal again. But, sometimes, there is a reason to re-home an animal. It is not always cruel, sometimes it's another way of taking care of that animal. How about foster animal homes? How is the animal supposed to know that the person who is loving it is not it's forever home giver? Would it be better off stuck in a small lonely cage? These animal freaks need to use their brains, if they have any. Their shitty judgemental attitudes are pissing me right the fuck off and I could smack them right in the face.
THESE are the critters that are most important to me. Pretty damn cute, aren't they? My second favorites are all of yours. I still say my readers have the most beautiful children in the world.
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Great post! I couldn't agree more. I LOVE my dog, but she's NOT my kid.
I don't understand why anyone would give her a hard time if she was worried for her child and was able to find the dog a home. I think that if you have done that, you have done your job.
Beautiful pictures of your grandkids, Pat!! They all look gorgeous, healthy and happy!! You and your family are doing it right!
Christina
Sienna can't have sex with the dog anymore I guess.
Your grandkids are adorable and Lissa looks so grown up!
Damn Pat, Liss is getting so big and gorgeous!
I can't wait to be a grandma. I've got a few years though. I'm filling the gap with pets.
Shelly
Thanks everybody! And Connie I have to apologise to you. Lissa has a letter and pics for your girls and I HAVE to get it mailed.
Melvin, you never did like her.
I know several off springs who are not nice children. I never laid down and gave birth, but I have mothered several men and animals. I'll take the animals any day.
I've always thought that unless you've been in that situation (any situation, you shouldn't make comments. What's the saying about walking in someone else's shoes?
I like to see pics of the kids. I am one of those people who will sit and look at someone's family albums.
I put my London pics in my computer and was going to send a few to you, my damn computer said my email is not completely "configured"! (Whatever in hell that is.) I looked over them and realized that 99% of them were architectural in composition---old doors, windows, walls, etc. The buildings were just so grand. I did take a pic of YOUR cat in Bathe. At least I thought it look like your cat--maybe not. I will send them when I get my new computer. I'm looking, I just don't know what kind I want. I need to go back to Atlanta and get my cousin to help me pick one out. She understands my tech ignorance. Not many people do and they get aggravated with me if I don't understand what they say. (My brain just doesn't work that way.) But I will send---one day.
I also burned my camera up in London. Damn thing got hot and stopped working.
Also forgot to tell you, my nephew's job has moved to Burlington, Iowa. My sister is already talking about going to see him---he left Sunday. So I may have a trip to Iowa in my future. Never been to Iowa!
Amen, sister. I seriously can't handle another picture of a tortured animal being used in the name of activism.
Was she in NYC? It's nuts to have a huge dog there. They are SO big and shed tons and can be so exuberant they knock people over walking down the street or anywhere. Not their fault. Really bad idea to get one for an apartment, no matter how big, in the city. Can you imagine the size of its poops? If I was a dog walker, I'd pass.
I agree with you . I love my animals that i have but if i feel they are not safe around my human grandkids or any kids theyvwill be gone .
karen j from Il.
Gah!!!! My dog is a jerk!!!
When I got up this morning, I saw fluff everywhere. She had eaten her abominable snowman, de-squeaked it, and beheaded it. Then, when I went outside to let the chickies out, I saw that she had dug up my Daphne, that I had been nursing along carefully for several years. She dug at the base of the bush, and completely threw it over sideways. I got so mad at her, that in the course of the talking-to she got, I threw my tiny green plastic watering can in her general direction. Wrong move. She happily grabbed it, and ran around me just out of reach, taunting me with it, while she was chewing it. I tried to spray her with the hose, to startle her and get my can back, but this only increased the fun factor for her. It made her run, clutching the watering can, with her butt low to the ground, if you know what I mean. The hose has limited range, and it's difficult to control the spray as she ate the nozzle. Eventually I went to plan B. I have a "Zombie Blaster" water gun, which I then hunted her down with. By the time I was done, I had my chewed watering can, and she was submissive, though I don't think she was sorry. I love her. She just pisses me off sometimes.
It's been a tough morning. I came in and ate a chocolate cupcake. But, once you eat the frosting off, it's a muffin. And, muffins are healthy. You're welcome.
So how's your day?
Christina
Christina you sure had me laughing. I've had many days like that over the years. It's so frustrating! But I loved them and eventually laughed. My BC Penny jumped into the water, so if you tried to hit her with water from a hose, you got water all over yourself. Nifty. I'd do anything to have her back, tho. Just a couple of days ago I put that Advantage flea stuff on Mikey and he didn't jump up and run away when I first starting thinking about it. I guess since Penny and Patches did, so did he. But without them here, he's fine with it.
I guess I am the odd woman out here, because I do believe that my pets are JUST as important as kids. Humans are not the superior animal.
Further, there are always loads of options besides dumping the pet that protect both kids and pets.
I visited a friend recently who has a dog about the size of a cow. A real gentle giant. Yet everyone, including me, was a bit frightened of it.
If that dog ran up to you and jumped up onto you in a friendly greeting (which is typical non-aggressive dog behaviour) it would have caused serious damage to a fully grown human let alone a child. That poor dog never experienced the friendly rough and tumble play that most family dogs experience. I felt so sorry for it.
It left me wondering if it was really necessary to breed large dogs like that and if placing large dogs into a family environment was an act of cruelty in itself. Just another way of looking at large dogs as companion pets to small humans.
My dog became quite viscous as he got older. Luckily he was a small dog and easily contained. Had he been a large dog I might have been forced to consider euthanasia.
Yes, just like older, larger humans who become vicious and irritable should be euthanized, too. Fuck, animals are NOT expendable things that should be killed because they become a nuisance to the owner's lifestyle. There are a million options besides just dumping or killing the dog. Grrrrrr.
Well I happen to believe in euthanasia for humans too, Mary Mary so I'm not being speciest here. I just feel that when sentient beings get old, develop dementia and completely lose their quality of life they should have the option of allowing their loved ones to make that decision for them. I have always believed in euthanasia, but my beliefs were confirmed when I went through dementia with my mother and rather than putting her out of her pain and misery, as I had done with my dog, I had to stand by and watch her suffer. I know euthanasia would have been her choice, had she been offered one. I euthanased my dog because the only reason to force him to live was my inability to let him go, allowing him to live blind, deaf and in pain, would have been a purely selfish option.
Had my dog been too large to contain when the dementia set in and made him viscous I may have been forced to end his life earlier if there was no way to contain him since the council would have ordered his euthanasia anyway if he had bitten someone. As it turned out I was able to prolong his life and get a kind vet to come to my home to end his life rather than taking him to the surgery where his body would have been disposed of. This way he died on his bed and lies buried in his backyard. It was the very best I could do for him and more than I could do for my mother.
And Mary Mary, although you might apply the term 'does protest too much' to me. After 10 years of working as cook and owner of a vegan restaurant I have had a serious gut-full of holier than thou animal activists who are way to quick to point a finger of accusation at someone just because they havent expressed a 100% politically correct animal rights viewpoint. I feel really hurt and pissed off that you have seemingly jumped to the conclusion that I rid myself of my dog because he was old. How dare you be so cruel?!
Well that went south quickly....can't we all agree that we have different opinions on matters? It doesn't make anyone right or wrong.....except Melvin...Melvin is always wrong...
Hahahaha just go onto any vegan discussion group and type the word EGG then watch the shitstorm explode.
South, indeed. I don't believe anyone was suggesting to put an animal down because they become a nuisance to their lifestyle...that is just heinous. When it becomes about safety or humanity, that is another matter.
I do understand the love people have for their pets, I have three cats that I adore. However, I love my children and grandchildren much more. I am the reason they are here, after all. It is my responsibility to keep them safe. I made that commitment to them years ago. That doesn't mean in the grand scheme of life that humans are more important than animals. It means that in my house, my humans come first. My cat bit my daughter this weekend, completely unprovoked other than she was twitching her foot...the first time he's ever done such a thing. I made excuses for his behavior and from here on out, he will not be present when the children/grandchildren are around. That's what I'm doing about the situation. If I couldn't contain it, I would be forced to be more extreme.
Animals should be just as important as kids only if you don't have any kids. If you don't have kids I get why you would feel this way. Doesn't make it right, but I would never undermine your feelings by saying you're wrong. It does bring into question your respect for animals by suggesting someone's child is equal to an animal in value. Not even animals believe that. Animals accept the innate hierarchy in their respective groups. Respect your animals. Don't anthropomorphize them.
Firstly, I don't have kids. Never wanted them. I have dogs, birds, and a beautiful horse. But I have to tell you, I will not go broke or fight with my husband for any of them. My human family and friends come first. If my pets get sick, I'll do the best I can and then put them down. I have parakeets because they cost 14. bucks to replace. I like fish because you can flush them down the toilet when they die. I'm gonna tell you guys a secret about how much I love my horse, Marco. I love him so much that if I was hungry, and there was no food around, I would eat him. I went to 2 years of culinary school, so I have no problem butchering him myself. I've had to carry that secret for so long, thanks for letting me share.
Wow! Man, I love all these comments. I laughed so hard at Christina's story, it reminds me of me and my cat. I love him to pieces, but, goddammit he has to stop breaking things. This week he broke another phone. That makes 5 fucking phones I've had to replace.
And seeing MaryMary and Lia not getting along breaks my heart. Since I feel so close to both of you. But, your comments were all civil, so, I shall stay out of it.
I agree with Frim, people who don't have kids get to feel like animals are as important as children. It's just something I have to space off when I love someone childless. And I don't want to play the grieving mom, I won't do it. I'll just say, I miss my son more than any dog I ever loved. There is a hole in my heart and it can't be fixed.
Bima, that secret confession was brave as hell to put on here, since we're all animal lovers. I have thought about situations like that too. I could not do it for myself. But, you can bet if one of my kids was starving, I would sacrifice my pet. I almost puked typing that, but, I know it's the truth.
Oh, and not having kids because you didn't want them? I bow to you, that takes brains. I had no choice the first time, so I am in awe of people who get to make those decisions. You don't have to have any kids. Kids suck anyway. They really do. But, once you have them, you'd die for them in a heartbeat. That's just the way it is.
I've known so many young women lately who are such protective parents that they side eye or blow up at anyone who does or says anything that they interpret as slightly offensive. I always note that any of those people the young moms are badmouthing would also die for that child. If the kid ran out in traffic and they could stop it, at the expense of their own health or life, they would. And they don't even know the little rug rat, so I'd appreciate some of them to just shut the hell up.
I know what you mean. Child rearing now has become almost ridiculous. Children do not run the world and they shouldn't run the family. It pisses me off that people can't admit that they need a damn break from kids sometimes. Kids are everything to their parents, but, they suck the life right out of you if you let them. And these days, people let them. It's a thing. It makes my ass tired. I've been raising kids since I was 14 and I get tired and I'll admit it. See? And someone will read this and call me a bad parent and grandparent. Walk a mile in my flip flops, they wouldn't know it all then.
Don't worry about Mary Mary and me. I guess she doesn't know me or was having a bad hair day. I tried to let it go but the very idea that someone had taken my post about large dogs not enjoying much rough and tumble around the family because of their size, and turned it round to my putting my dog down simoly because it was old, just ripped right through me and tore me apart. We all know how painful it is to part with a pet. I doubt if anyone here would flippantly put down their dog for such a vacuous reason. I was simply trying to point out that a small dog with dementia would be easier to handle. My little shit did actually bite a few strangers who came too close, which he never did when he was young, I'm sure if he'd been a large dog it would have been a huge drama. And that was basically the point I was, in fact, trying to make. But, I'm not one to hold a grudge. Just felt strongly enough about it to answer back with harsh words. It's all good with me Mary Mary :-)
Whoa - chill. I wouldn't keep a pet or human alive if they were in pain or suffering, either, and I think Dr. Kevorkian is awesome. My Dad had a Living Will which allowed us to pull the plug so he wouldn't be a vegetable on a machine when he stroked out. I ain't cruel - the initial commentary was about getting rid of a dog solely on size, not suffering. Everybody sit down and have a drink and chill. And as for anyone who is a zealot about their beliefs, including nutty animal activitists, they can chill out, too. Sheesh.
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