There's a movement out there now to end what is called "birth rape". I am not qualified to decide if it actually is rape or just terrible medical treatment, but, a bunch of women are up in arms about it. And they should be. You can look up the 'end birth rape' movement, but, I clicked and clicked and finally found the lawsuit details of a woman who was treated by Dr. Scott Pierce (pictured above.) This birth incident is mentioned in many articles on birth rape. HERE is the article. Birth is traumatic enough without being subjected to painful invasive treatments without your consent by angry doctors. I'm glad they're getting called out, sued and have their photo put on the Internet.
Thursday, September 9, 2010
This is a bad doctor..and a bad man
There's a movement out there now to end what is called "birth rape". I am not qualified to decide if it actually is rape or just terrible medical treatment, but, a bunch of women are up in arms about it. And they should be. You can look up the 'end birth rape' movement, but, I clicked and clicked and finally found the lawsuit details of a woman who was treated by Dr. Scott Pierce (pictured above.) This birth incident is mentioned in many articles on birth rape. HERE is the article. Birth is traumatic enough without being subjected to painful invasive treatments without your consent by angry doctors. I'm glad they're getting called out, sued and have their photo put on the Internet.
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Time to flood the criminal's mailbox : spiercemd@mac.com
WTF?!?!
OMG i just read that article and i actually feel like im going to be sick.. what an absolute bastard... im just speechless.. that poor woman was tortured!
I hope he is punished as much as the law allows... he shouldnt be allowed to practice medicine ever again.
Liz from NZ
WOW, I'm in pain thinking of what this poor lady had to endure. How awful for her husband as well to feel so helpless.
I sure hope this nut job was fired or is he subcontracted by this hospital?
I bet he wouldn't treat his wife like that and would be infuriated if another doctor treated her like this.
~Palmetto Girl
OMG! I just read the entire article. I also just read the comments. We are all of the same mind. We actually felt her pain! I cringed & ached as I read it. I wanted to hit the SOB and tell him to get a real f'g Dr in there right now. His ass needed to be arrested. He is a heartless bastard. I am just thankful the child & mother didn't have paralysis or something as a result! I hope they put him out of the business. A Dr. here once was a Pediatrician. Then he got sued for something malpractice. Unfortunately, he just changed his practice to "Family Medicine" and business as usual, right here in town. But he cannot treat small children. So some kind of bad sh** went down. I have no idea. But they do get to keep hurting people, they just change their label & move on. It's just so wrong.
rox
This is almost too sick to believe....But I wonder how many of us would stand up to a physician if they were abusing us...We are taught that they help you, so it would be very weird. I hope they take this guys licence and lock hime up....
snowbunnie
I think this is more common than people think. I've met these guys before.
I was in a serious car wreck years ago, when I was just 16. I was in the front seat of a beetle VW bug and we got hit head on by a Grand Torino. We were hurt so bad, the idiot was drunk as hell. I digress..anyways, the damn Dr in the hospital came in to see me the next day in the hospital & gave me a f'g karate chop across the chest and I was all wrapped up from having several broken ribs! I wanted to die!! Who does that shit? Damn old effer. I was young & didn't say much, just layed there & cried from pain. He was like "I hope I didn't hurt you"! No, dude, I am already banged all up, whats another busted rib, right? Asshole.
rox
I would have told him to get the fuck out and my husband said that he knows that I would have.
Poor woman.
I had a neurologist tell me that there was nothing wrong with me neurologically and that i just had to deal with whatever it was. He handed me a prescription and I handed it back to him. I told him to shove it.
My Primary is friends with the Neurosurgeon that I was trying to get an appointment with (Dr Wet Noodle Neuro would NOT refer me).
Come to find out..I had two herniated discs and needed surgery.
Do not ever be afraid to tell you Dr what you think. Do not be afraid to fire their ass and get a second opinion either.
They are working for YOU.
This story makes me mad.
OMG! She should have squeezed his fucking head between her knees like a cantaloupe! He would have listened.
I've had angry doctors. They can hurt you and scare you. Back when I was young I had no idea you could say no. Now I do. And I won't hesitate.
When I had my kids around twenty years ago, there was one ob/gyn for my area and you had no choice but to go see him. This guy was a well-known sadist who took pleasure in hurting his patients. I think he deliberately fucked up my episiotomy in order to hurt me, which forced me to go back to him six months later to repair his crappy work. During that whole time I couldn't sit without pain, or have sex, or even have a shit without sharp stabbing pain around the episiotomy scar. I didn't want to go back to him but had no choice. During his "exam" of the scar tissue, he hurt me so bad I YELLED at him to stop, which he refused. By the time I left his exam room I was crying. When I limped into the waiting room, ALL the women there were staring at me, white-faced and in shock. They'd all heard me yelling and crying.
After that, he refused to deal with me. My GP then had to find another surgeon to do the repairs, and they were finally done by a competent surgeon in a town about an hour away from where I lived. By that time, the sadist ob/gyn was being investigated for numerous complaints against him and last I heard, his closed his Canadian practice and moved to the US.
It goes on all the time. We are meat to these misogynists, just meat.
This man is evil and has NO business practicing medicine. I hope jury awards her a huge amount and I hope the Medical Board does not just "sanction" him but takes away his license to practice medicine,
It sounds like he is a terrible doctor, but I'm not sure how she would do in court. Honestly, after years of doing this job, it seems like she should have gotten the epidural when she asked for it. But, sometimes you only have one anesthesiologist, and if they are busy doing an epidural or a cesarean or responding to a code in the hospital, a short wait might be involved. We have anesthetists that are very, very quick, and could have had that epidural in place (safely) in nothing flat, and we also have those who read through the patient's chart for an extended time (longer than necessary to do what they need to do, trust me). All it would take is having the latter be your go-to person for that time, and your patient would be waiting. If that was the case, usually I offer medication through the IV to get the patient through that period, but possibly there were no such orders available.
You also have to realize that people tell bizarre stories. Especially about labor and delivery. I once had someone tell me very earnestly, that the previous baby had been coming down the birth canal all wrong, and so the doctor turned it over, and it crawled back up into the uterus, and then came down the right way. Everyone in that patient room seemed to believe that account, though anyone who knows about L&D knows it couldn't happen that way.
I don't know why he delayed the epidural, unless the baby was very low, and with her being a multip, and so dilated, he really did think delivery was imminent. I don't ever see someone who is eight encouraged to start pushing, though. That just doesn't make sense. Often patients who have had several babies will go from six to eight to complete and pushing rapidly (sometimes in minutes). I once had a mom who was four to five cm dilated, sitting up for the epidural, and she suddenly had to push. I delivered the baby as soon as she laid down. She went from four to five, to complete and on the perineum in a matter of a few minutes, so it can happen. I think that was the first baby I delivered by myself. If the baby's position is normal, the mom may push for a very short time. Recently, three pushes for one patient I saw. If that is the case, the epidural may not set up properly until after the baby delivers, and you may be numb for some hours afterward.
I am not excusing what happened to this woman, but I think that there is probably more to the story than what is listed in the article.
I have patients who insist on getting their epidural, and then are upset because their legs are numb after the epidural is working. In our culture, we somehow have made it okay for patients to demand whatever they want, without ever having to educate themselves. We, as caregivers, are then held responsible for whatever happens that they don't like about the experience, and because they don't understand, fully, how anesthesia or birth works, they think we did them wrong. There are days when the whole thing is pretty thankless.
My OB/GYN called me a "NINCOMPOOP" spelling? then had the gall to ask me if I knew what the work meant!
bima
That man sounds like a five star LUNATIC, if the allegations are true.
sorry for the comment, that was stupid. bima
I would have ask him if he knew what pretentious fucktard meant.
Christina, not everyone is kind and professional like you. Trust me.
That WAS funny, about the baby crawling back up there. Talented tot, wasn't it?
Why I loathe and detest doctors, part 8,357!!
I hope this mysogonistic scumbag (a) loses everything he has because of a big whopping judgment again him, and (b) has his license to practice medicine revoked. Unacceptable!
You know, one of the things that I really don't understand about this, is all the commentary about not having 25 gauge needles to do local. We have tons of 25 gauge needles on our unit, and if you want to do local, you don't have to have that. You might prefer it, but what we have on our back tables for delivery is, I believe, a 22 gauge, though you could use other sizes as well. Parts of the story make no sense to me.
But then, I don't know why people come in through the ER when they are in labor, unless you don't have a doctor, haven't gotten prenatal care, or are vacationing, etc. where you are not in the area of your care provider. People just show up at our unit all the time, and just expect to be taken care of, and we do. Sometimes it is difficult, if they are not from around here, or a home delivery has gone very badly, and we have no medical information on them. Maybe people don't understand that. If we don't have a history and physical on the patient, we don't know if they have a negative blood type which may mean the mom will get rhogam immune globulin, or if they are rubella immune, hepatitis exposure, significant medical issues, bleeding disorders, anemic, or social issues that may require intervention. You can be sure that we are held responsible for the high standard of care that we are expected to give people who drop in, just as those who have prepared themselves, and made sure they are healthy and have received proper care, though. It makes me a little sad sometimes, about the lack of responsibility that people sometimes show, when so much is at stake, and yet, they can't be bothered to listen to you when you are trying to complete their education prior to discharge. They're either trying to look around you at the TV, or are texting or answering cell phone calls while you are trying to discuss issues regarding their baby's health with them.
I'm sure that having a vaginal exam was uncomfortable for her, but it is sometimes the best way we have of finding out if your cervix is ready for you to push, or if your baby's presentation is as it should be, or if baby is facing sunnyside up (posterior) or if there is a little bit acynclitic presentation, meaning the head is somewhat cocked to one side or the other, etc., making for a larger diameter to pass.
I know the article sounds terrible, and for sure, the guy is a pompous jerk, and has no place in OB, but just so you know. . . there are inconsistencies in the story. Not all of it makes sense.
I'm appalled beyond belief! That poor poor woman.
~ Jess
this actually happens alot.. the doctors dont care and they are "so busy" they want to just get it over with. this happened to me and my son, i was sick throughout my pregnancy with pseudo tumor cerebri which caused an accumulation of spinal fluid in my head 6 times normal ( 70 -100 psi is normal mine was over 500 when he stopped measuring it and just started draining it) and my ob and neurologist fought over my treatment so by the end i was on 200 mg per day of prednisone and had gained 150 pounds in a couple months. at 33 weeks my son was fully developed and 7 pounds so he was delivered. his father was abusive to me which carried over into my labor room and when i screamed and told him to leave the dr yelled at me and said i was lucky to have a guy who "would stick with me" i was told repeatidly to shut up by the dr and the anesthesologist when my epidural fell out of my back. So while im puking on the floor after my second dose of potosin which never dialiated me they rushed me in for a c section. Unfortunately since i had gained so much weight the dr assumed i didnt care about my appearance so instead of making a nice incision that was just big enough to remove the baby, i was cut literally hip to hip, over 24 inches of scar across my stomach. Not only did it leave a horrible scar they cut all my muscles and nerve endings so still almost 14 years later i have no feeling across my midsection. and thats not the worst part of the c section. they claimed they were in such a hurry they had to work fast. so as soon as i started to doze they started cutting, i rememeber opening my eyes and trying to scream and having a tube shoved down my throat to complete the anesthesia, it was the worst pain i have ever experienced in my life. When i woke up i was told i had a healthy baby boy, but for the last 3 months during weekly ultrasounds i was told it was a girl so i started to cry and ask what they did with my baby girl. I was told to "shut up and stop whining" by the anesthelogist. i cried all the way to my room and then demanded my baby, i didnt let him go, i refused to let them take him to the nursery because i didnt know how they would treat him. 30 hours after my c section a float nurse came in and started to take out my staples and i ripped open leaving a really thick scar on one side. I was told that i ripped cause i was so fat, not because i should have had the staples in for longer. My son and i left less then 36 hours after my c section and never went back.
this actually happens alot.. the doctors dont care and they are "so busy" they want to just get it over with. this happened to me and my son, i was sick throughout my pregnancy with pseudo tumor cerebri which caused an accumulation of spinal fluid in my head 6 times normal ( 70 -100 psi is normal mine was over 500 when he stopped measuring it and just started draining it) and my ob and neurologist fought over my treatment so by the end i was on 200 mg per day of prednisone and had gained 150 pounds in a couple months. at 33 weeks my son was fully developed and 7 pounds so he was delivered. his father was abusive to me which carried over into my labor room and when i screamed and told him to leave the dr yelled at me and said i was lucky to have a guy who "would stick with me" i was told repeatidly to shut up by the dr and the anesthesologist when my epidural fell out of my back. So while im puking on the floor after my second dose of potosin which never dialiated me they rushed me in for a c section. Unfortunately since i had gained so much weight the dr assumed i didnt care about my appearance so instead of making a nice incision that was just big enough to remove the baby, i was cut literally hip to hip, over 24 inches of scar across my stomach. Not only did it leave a horrible scar they cut all my muscles and nerve endings so still almost 14 years later i have no feeling across my midsection. and thats not the worst part of the c section. they claimed they were in such a hurry they had to work fast. so as soon as i started to doze they started cutting, i rememeber opening my eyes and trying to scream and having a tube shoved down my throat to complete the anesthesia, it was the worst pain i have ever experienced in my life. When i woke up i was told i had a healthy baby boy, but for the last 3 months during weekly ultrasounds i was told it was a girl so i started to cry and ask what they did with my baby girl. I was told to "shut up and stop whining" by the anesthelogist. i cried all the way to my room and then demanded my baby, i didnt let him go, i refused to let them take him to the nursery because i didnt know how they would treat him. 30 hours after my c section a float nurse came in and started to take out my staples and i ripped open leaving a really thick scar on one side. I was told that i ripped cause i was so fat, not because i should have had the staples in for longer. My son and i left less then 36 hours after my c section and never went back.
this actually happens alot.. the doctors dont care and they are "so busy" they want to just get it over with. this happened to me and my son, i was sick throughout my pregnancy with pseudo tumor cerebri which caused an accumulation of spinal fluid in my head 6 times normal ( 70 -100 psi is normal mine was over 500 when he stopped measuring it and just started draining it) and my ob and neurologist fought over my treatment so by the end i was on 200 mg per day of prednisone and had gained 150 pounds in a couple months. at 33 weeks my son was fully developed and 7 pounds so he was delivered. his father was abusive to me which carried over into my labor room and when i screamed and told him to leave the dr yelled at me and said i was lucky to have a guy who "would stick with me" i was told repeatidly to shut up by the dr and the anesthesologist when my epidural fell out of my back. So while im puking on the floor after my second dose of potosin which never dialiated me they rushed me in for a c section. Unfortunately since i had gained so much weight the dr assumed i didnt care about my appearance so instead of making a nice incision that was just big enough to remove the baby, i was cut literally hip to hip, over 24 inches of scar across my stomach. Not only did it leave a horrible scar they cut all my muscles and nerve endings so still almost 14 years later i have no feeling across my midsection. and thats not the worst part of the c section. they claimed they were in such a hurry they had to work fast. so as soon as i started to doze they started cutting, i rememeber opening my eyes and trying to scream and having a tube shoved down my throat to complete the anesthesia, it was the worst pain i have ever experienced in my life. When i woke up i was told i had a healthy baby boy, but for the last 3 months during weekly ultrasounds i was told it was a girl so i started to cry and ask what they did with my baby girl. I was told to "shut up and stop whining" by the anesthelogist. i cried all the way to my room and then demanded my baby, i didnt let him go, i refused to let them take him to the nursery because i didnt know how they would treat him. 30 hours after my c section a float nurse came in and started to take out my staples and i ripped open leaving a really thick scar on one side. I was told that i ripped cause i was so fat, not because i should have had the staples in for longer. My son and i left less then 36 hours after my c section and never went back.
This story is just horrifying. I will say this..the doctor who delivered my daughter was not the same obgyn I had been seeing throughout my pregnancy because when I went into labor my doctor was on vacation and the doctor that was on call treated me just as well as my own obgyn. Here you do NOT need to call the hospital or doctor when you are in labor..you simply go in and they check your stats and monitor contracts and if you are in fact in labor you are admitted. I had both my children naturally with no pain medication because that is what I CHOSE to do..I was offered an epidural or other forms of medication many times during both of my deliveries and I think that women who opt to have pain meds are more than just to do so and in the end I believe it is the MOTHERS decision what she wants and doesn't want as long as there are no complications (which there obviously weren't in this case). I live an hour away from a hospital that delivers here so I was ENCOURAGED to get my ass to the hospital as soon as my body showed any signs of labor..and I opted to be induced with my second child because he was so low that my doctor thought if my water broke at home I might not have time to get to the hospital..again it was MY choice to be induced..I was never told I had to..I could have risked it if I wanted. I am glad that mother and baby are safe and alive..as far as healthy I'm sure the mother is not mentally healthy and won't be for a long, long time. I hope this doctor gets what's coming to him.
Christina,
I just always love reading your posts!
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